What classes should we expect to see on the Qantas Boeing 787?

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AirportAddict

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What classes should we expect to see on the Qantas Boeing 787? Take a look at ANAs 787s. They only have economy and business. What will Qantas have? Economy and business or economy premium business? we arent likely to see first are we?

Mitch

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Hello AirportAddict you ask alot of question! when you could find them on this site very easly, but there will be a three class layout with economy, premium and business class on the 787-900 and i think the seat layout is 275 on the 789, but could be wrong!

AirportAddict

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Sorry... have found answer. Thanks n e way.

am

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JQ 787-8: 300 pax across 2 classes

JQ 787-9: 350 pax across 2 classes

QF 787-9: 275 pax across 3 classes

Absolutely zero chance of seeing F, unless QF undergoes some major structural changes in the next 2-3 years (ie getting rid of the A380's)...

DrTGanguly

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I am not sure what the life expectancy for the QF A330 - 300 aircraft is, but presuming it is 20 odd years like most aircraft, but surely it would make sense to invest in an interior refitt at some point when they are due for major overhauls.  As part of the ne spirit announced last year routes such as MEL - BKK and MEL - AKL - LAX and LAX - JFK are being run by A330 aircraft with version 1 skybeds, no premium and 1st gen AVOD ecconomy seats.  Surely soem fully flat beds in J, world class W and Recarro seats in Y would be a winner for some of the routes that cannot justify an A380/remoddelled 747.  Obviously cost is a huge issue, but I am based in Adelaide and would relish being able to book W throught to London etc. without having to hop over to MEL/SYD first.  May be the solution is to move to Sydney....

AirportAddict

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Yeah it would be a good idea to bring premium economy to all the A330s. Jetstar can stay with their cattle class and fat cattle class. Wouldnt mind seeing the middle seat in the first 2 rows of economy on the 737 blocked off just so they have a premium economy or 'Economy plus' sort of thing... who agrees?

David

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We're not likely to see First Class on any 787, says Boeing: http://www.ausbt.com.au/boeing-787-dreamliner-nixes-first-class-for-business-premium-economy

AirportAddict

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Thanks for pointing that out. Well at least Qantas gives you the option for three classes. Hope they will have come up with a new business class seat by 2015 :D...... 

I think that now is the time that QF should start thinking about how they could improve their international business class product.. this may be a winner to recover in the international side of things... who thinks so?

David

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AA, Qantas will definitely have a new business class product for the 787 (their exec told me as much during a Boeing 787 briefing in Seattle last year) and the airline has already started their "What's next?" thinking... this involves weighing up off-the-shelf options from seat manufactuers as well as the DIY approach (a la the Marc Newson Skybeds), and also checking the trends in product because you need to be ordering this stuff well in advance. I recall the exec of one un-named airline telling me that they chose a seat from Company A because Company B had so many back-orders that they simply could not provide the seats until a year after the airline needed them.

With the Boeing 787 there's also no option to BYO economy seat, however – Boeing is locking airlines into one seat from a catalogue of suppliers and models – and although they can do their own thing in all other classes, the catalogue has a stack of premium economy and business class offerings as well. This could also steer Qantas towards that off-she-shelf approach, because while there will be less product differentiation it'll be much cheaper than DIY, both in seat production as well as aircraft fitout (the Boeing-approved seats can be more easily installed on the production line and delivery time is faster than a new fit, so you get your plane faster and begin cost recovery sooner).

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