Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 23 Oct 2013
Total posts 767
Qantas - "Our new Business Suite features the world's first seats that allow you to recline your seat from take-off through to landing*."
I thought Air New Zealand allowed you to recline your Business Premier seat on the 777's as mentioned in their safety video
So Qantas has incorrect marketing?
Member since 12 Jun 2013
Total posts 216
Maybe they just mean they're slow-moving and take eight hours to recline?
But yeah, you can definitely lie as flat as you like in NZ's seats upon takeoff. I'm not sure whether this is actually a good idea, mind you -- in the event of a sudden deceleration I'd wager you could slip out of your seatbelt. Still, if I'm gonna die I might as well die comfy.
Member since 20 Mar 2012
Total posts 85
I have flown in Virgin Atlantic Upper Class (same seat as Air NZ) and they allowyou to recline your seat as much as you like (within the limitations of how far the seat will physically recline). However Hugo, you are unable to lie flat upon takeoff. (as in lie down in a flat 180 degree position)
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 06 Sep 2012
Total posts 99
I'm pretty sure you can't lie flat 180 degrees with QF Business Suite as well. This is obviously to comply with air safety regulations.
Yeh I know that you can't lie flat on either VS, NZ or QF seat during take off and landing but you can recline the seat as much as possible
It then means that the Qantas PR dept. has not done their research before posting
"Our new Business Suite features the world's first seats that allow you to recline your seat from take-off through to landing."
Lufthansa - Miles & More
Member since 29 Jul 2014
Total posts 46
I Have flown around the world and jetblue allow you to as do all airlines with the NZ type busniess class seating Qantas are lying and theres is very uncomfortable when it is reclined only you back goes down your legs are still flat against the seat.
Member since 24 Oct 2010
Total posts 997
1. You definitely can't recline the Qantas Business Suite (or the equivalent seats from Air New Zealand or Virgin Atlantic) to fully-flat for take-off and landing.
2. What you do get is a recline of the back of the seat while the base slides forward, although the legrest doesn't come up. The recline on the domestic Airbus A330-200s is 5 inches, equivalent to 21 degrees; on the international A330-300 jets you'll get 7 inches or 25 degrees.
3. As I understand it, this is greater than the recline of the Air New Zealand / Virign Atlantic seats, which is something Qantas alluded to in its early PR releases – 'the most recline on take-off and landing' or words to that effect. But it seems some later releases have skipped that important qualifier!
Well air new zealand even said in their saftey videos that in business premier you choose your own position during take off and landing when means that qantas is not the first one to have the feature.
In no way can you recline along way or lie flat during takeofff and landing.
Member since 10 Dec 2014
Total posts 37
Yes Air Nz does allow a slight recline in bussness during take off or landing although fully or lie Flat would be a saftey risk.
It would be a saftey risk on any airlines
But my point is the QF Marketing is wrong as other airlines have also allowed recline during take off and landing and Qantas is not the first airline
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