Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 23 May 2014
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Does anyone know if Qantas is restricting Classic Award seats for the new J product? I'm a Bronze FF and can't seem to find any J award seats on A330 flights (even just as flights are released for booking). The booking engine will happily reroute me through a different port to shunt onto a 747 or CX flight.
Member since 21 Apr 2012
Total posts 2,059
I think the correct terminology is "Qantas revenue management is limiting availability of redemption inventory in anticipation of high demand for revenue bookings"
Give it a while, by that I mean 2 years for the fanfare around these new seats to die down before you will see redemption availablity trends reverting to prior periods.
Member since 17 Aug 2012
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Member since 08 Jun 2014
Total posts 308
I never seem to be able to get an award flight these days on QF metal. My last 3 j awards ( albeit for 4 pax together) this year have been on qatar, emirates and cathay! Nice one qantas
I suspect any J availability on Qantas after revenue bookings are taken into consideration, are kept aside for QFF points upgrade/Platinum op-ups. It makes more business sense for them to:
a) Reduce their FFP liability, while still making revenue. With vanilla redemptions the revenue stream is limited to fuel surcharges).
b) Keep the golden geese (QFF Plat/P1) in their programme happy by ensuring a higher consistency of upgrade success, be it points or op-up - you don't want to upset those people who bend over backwards and pay a premium to fly QF or QF codes.
c) Given the limited competition (duopoly) chances are any man and his dog has QFF points - and if they persevere, will have enough (after perhaps a decade) for an international J redemption. These people essentially are being taken for mugs by the QFF programme and do not really require to be taken care off.
Member since 20 Mar 2012
Total posts 85
I agree with TRB above; same thing happened with Singapore when they first released their Suites Class. It's now available for redemption using Krisflyer miles under the saver category.
Member since 12 Jul 2014
Total posts 79
I have had a business case idea that QANTAS could adopt, but doubtful they ever would (and again this is an arm chair CEO).
Set an annual index price for Points (e.g.1pt = 4.5cents) and then allow people to book ASA or CA with a set cash value equivalent to points, in-line with fare adjustments. Obviously, ASA attract more pts but allow earning of SC and Pts, where as a CA don't. Allow Upgrades on pts as ASA or CA aswell, to make them appealing.
Allow the Pts/$ to fluctuate every year on market on either a set date, or do it on direct market conditions and reflect it for indivdual accounts. e.g.: My QFF anniversary is Nov, my index price is adjusted to market on that date and locked for my membership year.
This would allow QFF to continue to be a marketable venture, and QANTAS could still retain loyalty as QFF have a locked in redemptin rate for their pts each year.
Member since 06 Nov 2014
Total posts 156
I booked an A330 (double checked with paid booking) transcontinental flight for Oct this year hoping I could snatch the new J seat. QF then downgraded the aircraft to 737-800. So even if you can get one now means nothing.
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