Does anyone know what happens to the QF AKL-LAX slots now vacant?

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aklrunway

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Member since 09 May 2011

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Does anyone know what happens to the QF AKL-LAX slots now vacant? Will they be put up for "tender" (so to speak) or continued to be controlled by QF? Obviously rumors of JQ taking over but what happens to the slots in the meantime?

driley28

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Member since 07 May 2012

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Air NZ have increased services from AKL to LAX to compensate this.  There has been no other services announced by Jetstar.  There is no tender process, however airlines can apply to the relevant authorities to fly these services.

am

Member since 15 Apr 2011

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Most routes are't regulated in this way any more, so there aren't X number of daily AKL-LAX flights up for 'tender'. Rather, New Zealand and the US have signed an open skies agreement, which allows airlines from both countries to fly where they want as much as they want. UA could, for example, announce tomorrow that they will start flying 20 times a day from LAX to AKL and NZ could announce 10 daily services nonstop to JFK from CHC (or anywhere) if they wanted to. 

So QF dropping out of the AKL-LAX route doesn't free up any 'slots' so to speak, but we could see another airline come into the market to take advantage of undersupply caused by QF's withdrawal.

John Walton

Member since 03 Jan 2011

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And not just undersupply -- Air New Zealand now has the ability to set prices for the entire AKL-LAX route.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Jetstar jumping in there with an A330 once the US-NZ and NZ-US travel markets pick up, since Jetstar has an established network within NZ.

dimi

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Member since 13 Jul 2012

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Hawaiian Airlines just announced a new service from Honolulu to Auckland.

Dunc

Member since 30 Sep 2011

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Air Tahii Neu to PPT LAX CDG fares can be very good. Air Pacific LAX new planes. Otherwise to stay on top of the fares book RTW through Sar Alliance website.

CL9

Member since 22 Mar 2012

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Well, Jetstar can't fly one of their A330-200's unless they got the 240min ETOPS option. Currently, a standard A330 only has 120min ETOPS restriction, which isn't enough for AKL-LAX. Try it out on Great Circle Mapper.

CL9

Member since 22 Mar 2012

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But Jetstar might use Qantas A330-300 which have 180 ETOPS, which is enough for AKL-LAX.

am

Member since 15 Apr 2011

Total posts 216

But the A330-300's don't have anywhere near enough range to make that flight nonstop. They are also pretty critical for Qantas in Asia, so I don't expect them to go anywhere for a good few years.

Jetstar's A330's has the same ETOPS 180 ratings as Qantas', so if Qantas can fly the route with an A330-200 then Jetstar can as well. 

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