After reading into this topic apparently QF has 20 787 options they have to exercise by the end of 2015, and the other 30 options have to be exercised by the end of 2016, it only seems to be a rumor but i'm not too sure.
speaking of the 787s I hope QF order 35 787-9s like they originally planned and 10 787-10s for Trans-Pacfic and possible routes to Europe and Dubai
The 787-10 may have trouble doing the return leg on a Trans-Pacific flight owing to the prevailing winds, and it doesn't have enough range to reach Dubai I think, so I'm not sure the -10 will be on Qantas' radar, although perhaps Qantas may get -10's for popular Asian routes like Singapore and HK.
I think QF will stick to -9's. They want less kinds of aircraft in the fleet, and a -9 can do Dubai and Dallas (their two longest routes).
That said, I do hope QF exercise those 787 options quickly. I had the pleasure of flying in a 787 two years ago, and its a very quiet and comfortable plane (at least if you aren't in Sardine Hell).
Both of them are very quiet with more cabin humidity (and I think a more moderate cabin altitude, pressure-wise) than a 777.
I can't do a rational comparison however. I've spent about 54 hours aboard A380s (which are very comfortable), and only 3 and a bit hours inside a 787. Also, I don't remember the dreamliner flight as clearly.
That said, both are a substantial comfort upgrade relative to 777s/747s/A330s.
Which one is better? I can't answer that question, but I can say both are very comfy.
I think that does'nt answer the question. Are you saying that aircraft purchases are predicated on what the airline's unions pay scales are? Some would say that has been one of the causes of Qantas' problems in the past.
For an example, an A380 flight crew gets paid different to a A330, 747 crew etc etc... So Qantas is negotiating with its unions to determine what the pay scales are for the 787.
I am not saying anything. I am saying what Qantas has said is one of the things that must be finalised before they action their order options.
My hope is for a 787-9 doing a daily Perth-Dubai-Frankfurt run. Time it to connect in Dubai to pick up pax from QF A380 flights from eastern states and vv for Perth pax to travel onto London. And same on return. That would kill two birds - long overdue QF metal to Europe from WA; and re-establish Frankfurt as a second European port serviced by the right aircraft. In a sense it would mimic the BRI-LAX-NYC run, where it picks up pax from a number of Australian flights in LAX.
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When are QANTAS's 787 orders due to be placed?
GgFlyer
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When are QANTAS's 787 orders due to be placed?
After reading into this topic apparently QF has 20 787 options they have to exercise by the end of 2015, and the other 30 options have to be exercised by the end of 2016, it only seems to be a rumor but i'm not too sure.
speaking of the 787s I hope QF order 35 787-9s like they originally planned and 10 787-10s for Trans-Pacfic and possible routes to Europe and Dubai
StudiodeKadent
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The 787-10 may have trouble doing the return leg on a Trans-Pacific flight owing to the prevailing winds, and it doesn't have enough range to reach Dubai I think, so I'm not sure the -10 will be on Qantas' radar, although perhaps Qantas may get -10's for popular Asian routes like Singapore and HK.
I think QF will stick to -9's. They want less kinds of aircraft in the fleet, and a -9 can do Dubai and Dallas (their two longest routes).
That said, I do hope QF exercise those 787 options quickly. I had the pleasure of flying in a 787 two years ago, and its a very quiet and comfortable plane (at least if you aren't in Sardine Hell).
Chris2304
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How does the 787 compare to the A380 in terms of humidity and noise?
Bizflyer
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It is a lot better the cabin is brilliant I fly on them where ever possible.
StudiodeKadent
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Both of them are very quiet with more cabin humidity (and I think a more moderate cabin altitude, pressure-wise) than a 777.
I can't do a rational comparison however. I've spent about 54 hours aboard A380s (which are very comfortable), and only 3 and a bit hours inside a 787. Also, I don't remember the dreamliner flight as clearly.
That said, both are a substantial comfort upgrade relative to 777s/747s/A330s.
Which one is better? I can't answer that question, but I can say both are very comfy.
hutch
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QF still negotiating with unions. Order won't be confirmed until an agreement is reached.
Frank
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What has aircraft purchasing got to do with unions?
Himeno
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Aircraft type relates to crew pay scale.
hutch
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As Himeno says!
Frank
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I think that does'nt answer the question. Are you saying that aircraft purchases are predicated on what the airline's unions pay scales are? Some would say that has been one of the causes of Qantas' problems in the past.
hutch
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For an example, an A380 flight crew gets paid different to a A330, 747 crew etc etc... So Qantas is negotiating with its unions to determine what the pay scales are for the 787.
I am not saying anything. I am saying what Qantas has said is one of the things that must be finalised before they action their order options.
Fonga
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My hope is for a 787-9 doing a daily Perth-Dubai-Frankfurt run. Time it to connect in Dubai to pick up pax from QF A380 flights from eastern states and vv for Perth pax to travel onto London. And same on return. That would kill two birds - long overdue QF metal to Europe from WA; and re-establish Frankfurt as a second European port serviced by the right aircraft. In a sense it would mimic the BRI-LAX-NYC run, where it picks up pax from a number of Australian flights in LAX.