I was wondering when do Jetstar start 787 flights from Perth to Tokyo/Shanghai?

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Shoudy Chen

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I was wondering when do Jetstar start 787 flights from Perth to Tokyo/Shanghai?

Sim1

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Never

we are on the west coast...don't exist

GregXL

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That would be terrific if the 787 had a roo on the tail,not a star!  But then,  Sim1 knows has QF plans...

henrus

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Based on a contract QF has signed with pilots they will have QF 787's operating sometime in the next ten years

henrus

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It is not that the west coast dosen't exist its just that from Sydney they have problems filling a plane to Asia and Sydney is a city of ~4.2 Million people and Perth is a city of ~1.8 Million people.

As for Tokyo

No chance if QF is unable to maintain a simple flight from SYD/MEL to tokyo then there will be no JQ flights going to Japan from Perth.

I think a current only one JQ flight goes from sydnet to tokyo direct and the rest go through Cairns or the Gold Coast.

As for Shanghai

Jetstar don't even fly to Shanghai to start with so flights from any major city are very unlikley at this stage as the route would be most likley operated by JQ Asia from Singapore.

From memory JQ had JQ Asia flight to Beijing but these were stopped after poor demand.

Sim1

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Actually per has hit 2 million in the last few months.

Shoudy Chen

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Perth population is bigger than Brisbane and Adelaide so that could mean that Perth would be able to use the Jetstar Boeing 787s during the long term. But during the short-term, we need to upgrade the Etihad services using the B787s in 2016, and Qatar A350s in 2016. I reckon that this will eventually happen somewhere in the future. But on the other side, I do believe that Perth needs to expand Jetstar International Services. 

Getting rid of the SYD-NRT route and restoring the PER-NRT route would be a significant change to Jetstar. 

yanos09

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Agree with the Etihad 787 service. I believe there are plans for either 787 or A350 service for Qatar. Singapore Airlines will most likely fly A350 to Perth. They said it was for their premium medium-haul routes, Perth being one.

henrus

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Perths population is not bigger than Brisbane and is not bigger then Brisbane and Adelaide either so I am not sure where that came from.

I am also not sure why getting rid of the SYD-NRT route would benefit Jetstar (cause at the end of the day thats all its about) as they would all of a sudden have a smaller catchment area from both Perth (with ~2 million people less in Greater Perth compared to greater Sydney) you also have to remember that Jetstar also operate the services for the Japanese as well and lets face it the Japanese don't want to visit Perth, Brisbane (I am from Brisbane), Adelaide cause there is nothing to do in those places.

Instead they can make money flying the Japanese to places like Cairns, Sydney and Melborune, Gold Coast (all very touristy locations) and fly Australian's from other cities and to those locations using their domestic network if they need to.

Sim1

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Not sure if you actually live in australia

But perth is bigger than Adelaide so not sure where you got that from. Also perth is only around 100,000 less people than Brisbane. Tho stats show in the next twenty years perth will over take Brisbane. And yes boom is coming off but stats still stand.

henrus

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Yes I live in Australia (In Brisbane)

I never said that Adelaide was bigger then perth but what Shoudy said was "Perth population is bigger than Brisbane and Adelaide" which in not the case as I was just pointing out

What I am simply pointing out in my posts above is that Jetstar only goes to places where people want to go like the Great Barrier Reef (Cairns), Australia's biggest city (Sydney), Australia Beaches (Gold Coast) and a town with greatnight life, food and plenty of attractions (Melbourne) 

Note - I am not trying to talk up any of these places above I am just saying what they have which people want to see

Now with flights to Shanghai Jetstar does not even operate to Shanghai with the Jetstar Asia fleet as they recently pulled out of Bejijing due to no interest (So in Jetstars eye's there is no interest to anywhere further north in China)

With Flights to Japan - JQ needs routes that yes Australian's are interested in like (Perth - Tokyo) but they also need the people at the other end in Tokyo to want to fly to perth as well cause otherwise the route does not work

Current flight loads between Gold Coast - Tokyo are average at around 50% during non school holidays and they are almost full during school holidays but the same can't be said about the Carins - Osaka route which during non school holidays averages at around 20% loads and during school holidays at around 70-80% loads

You will find that some Cairns - Osaka flights have to be cancelled due to the poor load factors and JQ don't really want to start anymore routes where this could be the case (Routes like Perth - Tokyo) cause then it is up to the airline to reroute people via Cairns, Gold Coast, Melborune or Sydney if the cancel the flight 

Sim1

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Should re-read before you post then because you said Adelaide was.

Must of been a typo on your part.

Most Japanese and Koreans fly other carriers in to Perth. So JQ is actually missing out on a big market. Dont forget Perth is way bigger that Gold Coast or Cairns so should be viable.

henrus

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I understand that Perth is bigger but when I travel to Japan and ask them where they want to visit/have visited alot either say the Gold Coast or Sydney (and some also say cairns)

Shoudy Chen

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The fact that Gold Coast and cairns are smaller than Perth is that the airline uses only Jetstar 787 aircraft. The only reasons is that Cairns, and Gold Coast would have a connection to Japan. For Perth, JQ don't use 787 aircraft to Japan. NZ, TG, TZ and CZ use 787s. EY will be the next airline to use the 787 to Perth. 

Korean Air has never been to Perth but will be on the list of airlines coming to the mining capital perhaps in 2017. 

Sim1

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