Extra Qantas Slots at Heathrow.

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chap6595

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Extra Qantas Slots at Heathrow...I wonder if Qantas would consider running an extra A380 Route between Dubai and London, it would be surely full, just taking the extra people from Dubai to London and back. Thoughts?

GgFlyer

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Right now Qantas doesnt have any spare a380s, maybe when the 787s arrive Qantas will take delivery of the further 8 a380s and fly them on routes like BNE - DXB - LHR and SYD - SIN - LHR. 

ILIKEPLANES101

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I'm not sure why you are so sure they would be full? I'm pretty sure the DXB-LHR-DXB part of QF1/2/9/10 are actually quite empty as alot of passengers leave or board the aircraft in DXB after/before taking an EK flight from/to another European, Middle Eastern or North African destination.

moa999

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Plus there are already 5 Emirates flights a day, along with the 2 existing Qantas flights, plus flights from British Airways, Virgin Atlantic and Royal Brunei

And slots in London aren't exactly ready to get, or cheap

ILIKEPLANES101

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And let's not forget the 3 EK flights to LGW.

driley28

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Qantas did lease at least one slot to BA several years ago.  So there might be options in the future.

madge

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They leased two slot pairs to BA - the former SYD-BKK-LHR & MEL-HKG-LHR slots.

Himeno

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Qantas owns 4 slot pairs at LHR. 2 morning arrivals, 2 lunch time arrivals, 2 lunch time departures, 2 evening departures. The slots not currently being used for QF1/2/9/10 are leased to BA. (this is why it took so long between announcement and confirmation of the QF9/10 retime last year. They had to get BA to give back the slot pair QF wanted to use)

LondonAussie

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It can be a mixed bag.

I have been on QF2 which was empty LHR to DXB, then a can of Sardines to SYD. conversely, QF1 to DXB was empty, less then 180 pax, and then sardines to LHR.

I will update when I do it again next week.

driley28

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Can see the B787 flying to DBX from BNE and maybe PER and connect onto Paris and Berlin.  Qantas have always wanted to fly there, but were limited by 3 B747 equivalent flights per week, but with the B787 they might be able to fly 5 or 6 flights a week.  EK wants to fly to Berlin but can only fly to 4 ports in Germany (which they are currently), QF may be able to help out there.

Himeno

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The France-Australia air serivces agreement allows 3 "units" per week to mainland France. A "unit" is based on the amount of seats in the operating aircraft.

400+ seats: 1.0
360-399: 0.9
320-359: 0.8
280-319: 0.7
240-279: 0.6
200-239: 0.5
150-199: 0.4
under 150: 0.25

The 787 seat "target" is 250. They'd only be allowed 5 flights a week. To get daily, which is what Qantas wants, without a change to the air services agreement, they'd need to use a 737 or A320.

TheRealBabushka

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Why?? For the fun of it or is there a specific reason why capacity on the DXB/LHR should be increased? I'm with moa999.

Kitch

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I think qantas should have MEL-DXB-CDG then SYD-DXB-LHR, both with the a380, then have a 787 from BNE and PER, to Berlin and Rome

nmalon

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QF can sell or lease these rights to ofther airlines. It is very lucrative for them to do so. Unless there is any real demand for additional capacity to LHR why ustilise them when the internatiopnal arm of the airline has just returned to profit. It would make more commercial sense to use EK flights from the likes of BNE/PER/ADL to feed QF1/2/9/10 to and from LHR. 

For example. RTE (Irish new Service) recently reported that  Aer Lingus has 330 arrivals and departures per week in the summer schedule – 23 or 24 slot pairs. An economist quoted in this article states that these slots could be worth €500 – €600 million. I will reply to my comment and past the article i have quoted. 

 

 

nmalon

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Link as discussed: http://analysis.rte.ie/business/2015/02/25/the-value-of-a-heathrow-slot/

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