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Qantas business class to London: fast-track through immigration?

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Covvers

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 19 Jan 2018

Total posts 64

Changing the UK passport colour is nice, but that doesn’t mean the U.K. will give Commonwealth citizens the same preferential treatment they currently give EU citizens. I’d like to see some positive change, but I’m not holding my breath.

Yes, I share your scepticism. In my view, it is absolutely absurd that EU citizens (with no historical or cultural connection to the UK) enjoy rights and privileges which are not extended to, inter alia, Australians and New Zealanders. It is, of course, a product of the fact that the UK has been forced by their EU overlords to accept unlimited free movement of people from anywhere within the EU and to treat those people, effectively, as if they were citizens.

SKAirbus

Lufthansa - Miles & More

Member since 24 Jan 2018

Total posts 1

Changing the UK passport colour is nice, but that doesn’t mean the U.K. will give Commonwealth citizens the same preferential treatment they currently give EU citizens. I’d like to see some positive change, but I’m not holding my breath.

Yes, I share your scepticism. In my view, it is absolutely absurd that EU citizens (with no historical or cultural connection to the UK) enjoy rights and privileges which are not extended to, inter alia, Australians and New Zealanders. It is, of course, a product of the fact that the UK has been forced by their EU overlords to accept unlimited free movement of people from anywhere within the EU and to treat those people, effectively, as if they were citizens.


Gosh. You talk as though the UK has been occupied by a fascist force for the past 40 odd years. What a load of rubbish!





Firstly, European regulations are not a one-way street as you seem to be implying: they are reciprocal. British Citizens get the exact same privileges in other EU states - for example I live in Belgium without a work permit or residency visa because I am a British/EU citizen. Over 1 million Brits live in other EU states in fact - all thanks to freedom of movement rights. But of course the British superiority complex means that many feel they are better than EU citizens living in the UK. The use of the word "ex-pat" being a prime example. Many British people take for granted how easy it is for them to travel to and around the continent by virtue of their EU Citizenship. Due to its geographical proximity, of course European destinations are the most popular for British holidaymakers. Right now we can use the EU queue when travelling into and out of the Schengen area (which is usually very fast) but from next year, this will likely stop and Brits will have to wait significantly longer to enter other European countries. For example if you are going to Paris for a weekend, or even a daytrip, this will cause a huge headache if you have to wait for over an hour at passport control.

Secondly, "EU Overlords". What the hell is that? The EU is a cooperation of 28 nations who work together economically and politically. The UK has a lot of influence in Europe, not to mention 73 directly elected MEPs. Next year when the so-called transitional period comes into force, the UK will lose all its influence whilst at the same time having to adhere to EU laws and regulations. So much for taking back control eh?

And finally, why should the UK offer Australian citizens privilege when it is not reciprocated? When I go to Australia I have to apply for a visa in advance (even though it is free) and that only allows me to stay temporarily as a tourist. The process for British Citizens to apply for residency and/or a work permit is difficult.

EU freedom of movement has worked very well for the UK - it is reciprocal and easily allows for the jobs to be filled that British people don't want to do. The only people who have a problem with it are xenophobic leave voters who cringe whenever they hear someone speaking Polish in their local supermarket.









Covvers

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 19 Jan 2018

Total posts 64

Changing the UK passport colour is nice, but that doesn’t mean the U.K. will give Commonwealth citizens the same preferential treatment they currently give EU citizens. I’d like to see some positive change, but I’m not holding my breath.


Yes, I share your scepticism. In my view, it is absolutely absurd that EU citizens (with no historical or cultural connection to the UK) enjoy rights and privileges which are not extended to, inter alia, Australians and New Zealanders. It is, of course, a product of the fact that the UK has been forced by their EU overlords to accept unlimited free movement of people from anywhere within the EU and to treat those people, effectively, as if they were citizens.


Gosh. You talk as though the UK has been occupied by a fascist force for the past 40 odd years. What a load of rubbish!





Firstly, European regulations are not a one-way street as you seem to be implying: they are reciprocal. British Citizens get the exact same privileges in other EU states - for example I live in Belgium without a work permit or residency visa because I am a British/EU citizen. Over 1 million Brits live in other EU states in fact - all thanks to freedom of movement rights. But of course the British superiority complex means that many feel they are better than EU citizens living in the UK. The use of the word "ex-pat" being a prime example. Many British people take for granted how easy it is for them to travel to and around the continent by virtue of their EU Citizenship. Due to its geographical proximity, of course European destinations are the most popular for British holidaymakers. Right now we can use the EU queue when travelling into and out of the Schengen area (which is usually very fast) but from next year, this will likely stop and Brits will have to wait significantly longer to enter other European countries. For example if you are going to Paris for a weekend, or even a daytrip, this will cause a huge headache if you have to wait for over an hour at passport control.

Secondly, "EU Overlords". What the hell is that? The EU is a cooperation of 28 nations who work together economically and politically. The UK has a lot of influence in Europe, not to mention 73 directly elected MEPs. Next year when the so-called transitional period comes into force, the UK will lose all its influence whilst at the same time having to adhere to EU laws and regulations. So much for taking back control eh?

And finally, why should the UK offer Australian citizens privilege when it is not reciprocated? When I go to Australia I have to apply for a visa in advance (even though it is free) and that only allows me to stay temporarily as a tourist. The process for British Citizens to apply for residency and/or a work permit is difficult.

EU freedom of movement has worked very well for the UK - it is reciprocal and easily allows for the jobs to be filled that British people don't want to do. The only people who have a problem with it are xenophobic leave voters who cringe whenever they hear someone speaking Polish in their local supermarket.










You’re seriously deluded by the EU propaganda you’ve been fed. Then again you live in Belgium so it’s hard for you to escape it.


There is nothing democratic or cooperative about the EU. The so called European Parliament you refer is nothing more than a rubber stamp for decisions which are made by the unelected plutocracy.


Anyway, the argument is lost. The UK will be leaving and reclaiming it’s independence and pride. The EU will continue to slide into ever closer union all the while ignoring the wishes of European citizens.


The fact that you target leave voters is typical of the out of touch political elite that ignored what average people were thinking. If you spent more time talking to people in rural and suburban England and less time in the rarified Belgian air you’d appreciate that.


Moreover, your argument about reciprocity with Australia is flawed. Whilst I accept a free tourist visa (which is obtained online) is required, UK citizens can use the ePassport gates along with Australian nationals at all major international ports. The Australian Government has said for years they want to reach better reciprocal arrangements with the UK. It’s the UK, hamstrung by over door British migration, which has prevented them from coming to the table.

Last editedby Covvers at Apr 03, 2018, 11:30 PM.

JJJJJJJ

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 18 Feb 2017

Total posts 56

There is nothing wrong with the Australian passport.

It’s far superior to EU, and for now, UK passports by virtue of the brilliant “passport blue” colour it totes.



In your highly defensive state, you missed the point of the question.

patrickk

Qantas

Member since 19 Apr 2012

Total posts 348

Changing the UK passport colour is nice, but that doesn’t mean the U.K. will give Commonwealth citizens the same preferential treatment they currently give EU citizens. I’d like to see some positive change, but I’m not holding my breath.

Yes, I share your scepticism. In my view, it is absolutely absurd that EU citizens (with no historical or cultural connection to the UK) enjoy rights and privileges which are not extended to, inter alia, Australians and New Zealanders. It is, of course, a product of the fact that the UK has been forced by their EU overlords to accept unlimited free movement of people from anywhere within the EU and to treat those people, effectively, as if they were citizens.

I presume as well as NZ and Australia you include India and Pakistan and many other Asian and African countries you did have enough space to mention who have very strong historic and cultural connections much more recent than Australia and NZ..

Rufus1

Member since 04 Dec 2013

Total posts 64

There is nothing wrong with the Australian passport.

It’s far superior to EU, and for now, UK passports by virtue of the brilliant “passport blue” colour it totes.



Ha, except for the fact that - unless you're lucky enough to get one of the chatty, friendly older ladies or gentlemen (there are a few left), you're treated with hostility deep suspicion by the jobsworths at LHR.

Avoiding that special welcome is almost reason enough in itself to stump up the exorbitant fees for a registered traveller pass.

Eachschoolhols

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 29 Jul 2016

Total posts 9

Yes, I arrived on QF1 in business class last week. Fast track was so much better than any other queue.

flying_ian

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 01 Apr 2018

Total posts 3

Yes, I arrived on QF1 in business class last week. Fast track was so much better than any other queue.

Eachschoolhols - Thanks for the positive info. My trip is only about 3 weeks away now so getting quiet excited. :)

Cheers, Flying_Ian

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