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Perth to Johannesburg

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chap6595

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 17 May 2015

Total posts 39

Looks like Perth might be getting some direct flights to Johannesburg in the near future with an A330-200 according to routesonline
Would be nice!

ChrisCh

Member since 24 Apr 2012

Total posts 1,024

We note that these temporary filings have been removed from the system by Qantas.

Airlines do this sort of thing from time to time to assess flight timings, codeshares and for plenty of other reasons, including basic system testing (Qantas also used to codeshare on this route with SAA, before their authorisation was revoked), so not reason to celebrate yet.

If and when there's any news to report, you can be sure we'll report it with confirmation from Qantas.

dm12

Member since 08 Feb 2018

Total posts 70

interesting though. Perhaps they're considering using the new Perth terminal for JNB flights (it does say arrives T3). A connection at Perth would be slower for SYD pax who currently have a direct flight, but probably faster for pax from MEL or BNE. Although didn't VA have to fly a longer route than a 744 can do?

Maybe SYD-JNB is falling off with the retirement of the next 744.

We'll wait to see if this is a development for real.

Grannular

Member since 31 Mar 2014

Total posts 171

I would think ETOPS would cause them problems with the routing.
Although Air Mauritius flies their A330 to Perth. But do they have to comply with CASA's ETOPS 180 limit?

afloskar

Member since 10 Aug 2015

Total posts 158

SAA already have flights to JNB from PER so it is not a new flight

mannej

QF

Member since 21 May 2014

Total posts 161

I would think ETOPS would cause them problems with the routing.
Although Air Mauritius flies their A330 to Perth. But do they have to comply with CASA's ETOPS 180 limit?

SA have used their 332 on this run a handful of times over the last couple of months.

Himeno

Member since 12 Dec 2012

Total posts 278

I would think ETOPS would cause them problems with the routing.
Although Air Mauritius flies their A330 to Perth. But do they have to comply with CASA's ETOPS 180 limit?

CASA only has ETOPS regulation control over Australian carriers.
The A330 has a ETOPS type rating for ETOPS270. The PER-JNB great circle cuts slightly into the ETOPS330 range, but a slightly north track would get it into the 270. Tracking a route about 1-1.5 hours north would be in the 180 range.

The issue VA had with their MEL-JNB attempt was the east coast great circle routes run deep into the ETOPS330 area and need an extra 3 odd hours to track through ETOPS180 areas.

Qantas currently has 7 weekly flight allowances from IASC. There are 14 weekly flights left available for Australian carriers to South Africa.
It is possible that QF could cut QF63/64 to 3 weekly and add a PER-JNB "QF65/66" 4 weekly. Wouldn't need to get any more capacity assigned and would allow a 747 retirement.

ChrisCh

Member since 24 Apr 2012

Total posts 1,024

If and when there's any news to report, you can be sure we'll report it with confirmation from Qantas.

Now that AusBT has sighted internal documents at Qantas detailing these new flights which provides a much more concrete source than information posted elsewhere ont he Internet, we've been able to publish the following story: Qantas set to launch Perth-Johannesburg flights

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