Jetstar Boeing 787s being transferred to Qantas?

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Himeno

Member since 12 Dec 2012

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Unlikely they will operate out of Darwin as Qantas are in dispute with owners over their high charges. If Qantas are going to order A321LR better do it very quickly as Airlines will be flocking to Airbus for aircraft to replace cancelled 737max orders

I thought this was Perth - I haven't heard of any issues with Darwin Airport?

Qantas has reportedly had some level of problems with PER, DRW and CBR in recent years. The DRW and CBR issues are just $$$. The PER issues are more visable.

hakkinen5

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For leisure travellers (ie JQs primary market) one-stops will be perfectly acceptable provided they consistently undercut their competitors. The fleet metrics of the A321 combined with the benefits of Australian secondary hubs will make JQ a force to be reckoned with, even with the likes of Air Asia, Scoot and Lion group at our doorstep.

As I type this, one of the largest Indian airlines (Jet Airways) edges closer to collapse. Should 9W fall, and cause a large airline vacuum in India - a refitted QF spec 788 would be the ideal airframe to service subcontinental destinations from Australia. Low density, high yield configs (say 210 pax, as opposed to JQs 300+) would ensure maximum profitability can be leveraged from some of the largest cities on the planet, currently unserved from major Australian hubs.
Last edited by whoppersandwich at Mar 22, 2019, 09.42 PM.

Except that India is a low yield destination.....

Red Cee

Member since 15 Feb 2018

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If the JQ planes are transferred to Qantas, I hope they remove some of the seats. Being cramped into Jetstar seating doesn’t appeal.

David

Member since 24 Oct 2010

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Let's all bear in mind that the "Jetstar handing Boeing 787s over to Qantas" is for now pure speculation based on groundless gossip, without source, and as rumoury as a rumour can get.

Last editedby David at Mar 26, 2019, 01:00 PM.

Himeno

Member since 12 Dec 2012

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If the JQ planes are transferred to Qantas, I hope they remove some of the seats. Being cramped into Jetstar seating doesn’t appeal.

Did they change the seats when they transfered the A330s, or wait for the A330 fleet refit?

Himeno

Member since 12 Dec 2012

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Let's all bear in mind that the "Jetstar handing Boeing 787s overt to Qantas" is for now pure speculation based on groundless gossip, without source, and as rumoury as a rumour can get.

Agreed.
The 'source' appears to be airliners.net. It appears they also didn't answer the questions such a idea should come with. Why?

dm12

Member since 08 Feb 2018

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Unlikely they will operate out of Darwin as Qantas are in dispute with owners over their high charges. If Qantas are going to order A321LR better do it very quickly as Airlines will be flocking to Airbus for aircraft to replace cancelled 737max orders

I thought this was Perth - I haven't heard of any issues with Darwin Airport?

its everywhere I think, remember Canberra Airport parking a truck behind a 737 so it couldn't depart?!

dm12

Member since 08 Feb 2018

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I can't see JQ moving all 788's to QF, but with the A321LR they might not need as many 788's as they do today. I'm also not sure of the value proposition of some of the Asian routes being JQ only and not QF, (Vietnam comes to mind) or where both brands operate (SIN/BKK for example)

Their business model is two entirely different brands (JQ Australia and Qantas) with little crossover between them. You see this in same timed flights to places like Hawaii and NZ. If the long range operation is profitable then I dont see them changing. The argument is the 788 makes low-cost long-range possible/profitable.
As QF's A330's begin to age we might see a new fleet and that might include some JQ 788's, but I doubt all of them.

DanV

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Member since 04 Nov 2017

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I can't see JQ moving all 788's to QF, but with the A321LR they might not need as many 788's as they do today. I'm also not sure of the value proposition of some of the Asian routes being JQ only and not QF, (Vietnam comes to mind) or where both brands operate (SIN/BKK for example)
Their business model is two entirely different brands (JQ Australia and Qantas) with little crossover between them. You see this in same timed flights to places like Hawaii and NZ. If the long range operation is profitable then I dont see them changing. The argument is the 788 makes low-cost long-range possible/profitable.
As QF's A330's begin to age we might see a new fleet and that might include some JQ 788's, but I doubt all of them.

Some cities only have JQ, others may be QF mainline only and a few have both brands in depending on a number of factors including yields, load factor and whether if the city is a "hub" for the QF group.


SIN e.g is a hub for 3K (JQ Asia) and a scissor hub for QF for LHR flights, so it makes sense for the 3 QF group brands (JQ, 3K, QF) to all operate to SIN.

HNL seems to be a bit higher yielding than most other beach/tourist markets, thus it makes sense to have both a JQ and QF presence in that market.

BKK/HKT for example is a low yielding/VFR/Tourist market that would struggle to fill the top end premium seats of QF mainline, thus why JQ only flies that route.

Goat Guy

Member since 03 May 2017

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Might also be that the Jetstar 787's are getting close to their D Checks and as per the A330's, they get moved across to Qantas just before in order to keep the cost off Jetstar's books. There is more than one way to make an airline look profitable.

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