Business class to New York: Qantas vs Air New Zealand

We compare the new one-stop ‘long hop’ flights from Australia to New York.

By David Flynn, July 3 2023
Business class to New York: Qantas vs Air New Zealand

There’s an exciting new way to fly from Sydney to New York – one which skips the headaches and hassles of the long-standing LAX stopover to whisk travellers almost straight to the Big Apple.

‘Almost' is, of course, the caveat: these flights take off from Auckland, which serves as the springboard for the long 16-hour direct trek to New York.

For Qantas, this means a Sydney-Auckland-New York route on the airline's latest Boeing 787 Dreamliner – a similar approach adopted for its Melbourne-Perth-London and Sydney-Perth-Rome flights, where a short hop precedes a long continent-spanning stride.

Review: Qantas Sydney-Auckland-New York business class

For Air New Zealand, which pioneered the Auckland-New York route in late 2022, it's a proper non-stop flight, although of course the Kiwi carrier relies upon Australian travellers making same-day connecting flights from the likes of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane (with an overnight option from Adelaide or Perth).

Review: Air New Zealand Auckland-New York business class

Either way, the premise and the promise remains the same – just one sleep, and you’re in the city that never sleeps.

With Executive Traveller having already extensively reviewed both flights in business class, here’s a quick guide to how they compare.

Air New Zealand pioneered the direct Auckland-New York route in September 2022.
Air New Zealand pioneered the direct Auckland-New York route in September 2022.

First up, here’s a look at the New York schedules for Qantas and Air New Zealand – although as neither run daily services, you’ll need to plan your timetable around that of the airline:

Qantas QF3/QF4

  • QF3 departs Sydney at 9.30am and arrives into Auckland around 2.30pm; at 4.35pm it takes off for New York, where after some 16 hours aloft it lands around 4.50pm
  • QF4 is wheels up from New York at 7.30pm, reaching Auckland at 5am two days later; then at 6.30am it’s onwards to Sydney for an 8.10am touchdown.

Air New Zealand NZ1/NZ2

  • NZ2 departs Auckland at 7.40pm and glides into New York just before 8pm
  • NZ1 leaves JFK around 10pm and lands in Auckland at 7.30am two days later

Qantas vs Air New Zealand: lounges 

Regardless of which airline takes you to New York, business class travellers will encounter two or even three lounges: those at their starting point (typically Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane), the respective airline’s Auckland lounge and, ahead of the return flight, their partner lounge at New York’s JFK airport. 

Air New Zealand offers consistently good lounges at Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane with an extensive buffet, a selection of freshly-prepared dishes at the live cooking station plus a tended bar.

Air New Zealand's lounges offer a consistently high standard for food.
Air New Zealand's lounges offer a consistently high standard for food.

Of course, Auckland is home to AirNZ’s flagship lounge, where everything is dialled up a notch – we’d rate it as one of the better international business class lounges.

Qantas is more a mixed bag. If your journey begins at Sydney or Melbourne and you hold Platinum or Platinum One status, nothing beats breakfast at the Qantas first class lounge.

But both city’s international business class lounges fall short of expectations, a fact which Qantas will seek to remedy with upgrades for the Sydney and Melbourne lounges over the coming years. Brisbane has just the one international lounge but it’s better than Sydney or Melbourne.

Qantas' Sydney and Melbourne first class lounges are superb, but the business lounges sub-par.
Qantas' Sydney and Melbourne first class lounges are superb, but the business lounges sub-par.

As for the Qantas Auckland Lounge: yes, there’s a makeover on the cards which will combine the current first and business class lounges into a single much-improved space, that will be a long process stretching into late 2024.

It’s at New York that the loungescape shifts dramatically in Qantas’ favour.

Nee York's chic Soho Lounge for Qantas' Platinum-grade frequent flyers.
Nee York's chic Soho Lounge for Qantas' Platinum-grade frequent flyers.

Qantas flight QF4 departs from JFK Terminal 8, where Oneworld partners American Airlines and British Airways offer a chic Soho Lounge which welcomes Qantas Platinum and Platinum One-grade frequent flyers, while the Greenwich Lounge – formerly the American Airlines Flagship Lounge – is the go-to for business class passengers and Qantas Gold frequent flyers.

In New York, Air New Zealand shares this Lufthansa lounge.
In New York, Air New Zealand shares this Lufthansa lounge.

Air New Zealand’s NZ1 flight departs from JFK Terminal 1, where the lounges of Star Alliance partner Lufthansa are decidedly average in food, drink and decor.

Qantas vs Air New Zealand: business class

Air New Zealand and Qantas have both assigned a Boeing 787-9 to the New York route, and it’s an excellent choice given the Dreamliner’s modern design and ‘passenger wellness’ features.

The lower cabin altitude – equivalent to 6,000 feet above sea level, instead of the 8,000 feet of older jet designs – reduces muscle aches and general fatigue, while there’s more humidity in the cabin to stop your skin from drying out.

The upshot: you reach your destination feeling brighter and sharper, and while you may not have a spring in your step at least it won’t be a zombie-like stagger.

But the airlines’ Boeing 787 business class experience couldn’t more different.

Air New Zealand's Boeing 787 Auckland-New York business class.
Air New Zealand's Boeing 787 Auckland-New York business class.

Air New Zealand is flying an out-dated ‘sleeper shell’ designed some 20 years ago, which feels narrow and confining due to shoulder-height partitions on either side, while the angled layout sees many passengers facing one another like commuters on a bus.

And when you want to sleep, the crew have to flip the seat over and dress it with a mattress topper and pillows – there’s no facility to simply recline the seat through a deckchair-style ‘lazy Z’ mode to become your bed, which in turn impacts your ability to seamlessly move between those resting positions at any time during ther flight.

Air New Zealand's Boeing 787 Auckland-New York business class.
Air New Zealand's Boeing 787 Auckland-New York business class.

Yes, much better Business Premier seats and Business Premier Luxe suites are coming – but they won’t arrive until sometime in 2024.

The shape of seats to come: Air New Zealand's next-gen 787 business class arrives in late 2024.
The shape of seats to come: Air New Zealand's next-gen 787 business class arrives in late 2024.

So at least for now, that puts the Qantas Boeing 787 Business Suite way in front on pretty much every count (except for the companion dining of AirNZ business class, where another passenger can perch on the seat’s ottoman footrest to share a meal).

Qantas' Boeing 787 Sydney-Auckland-New York business class.
Qantas' Boeing 787 Sydney-Auckland-New York business class.

The wider seat is surrounded by useable space such as shelving and compartments, delivering a much higher degree of personal space and an overall superior level of comfort.

Qantas' Boeing 787 Sydney-Auckland-New York business class.
Qantas' Boeing 787 Sydney-Auckland-New York business class.

Qantas vs Air New Zealand: inflight entertainment 

With both airlines boasting a well-stocked library of movies, TV series and music, there’s plenty of entertainment on tap for the long trans-Pacific trek.

However, the more modern design of Qantas’ Boeing 787 business class has a significantly larger screen, at 15.5” against AirNZ’s modest 11” display, and it’s positioned at a more passenger-friendly viewing position.

Screens for the long haul: AirNZ's 11" panel vs Qantas' 15.5" display.
Screens for the long haul: AirNZ's 11" panel vs Qantas' 15.5" display.

But if you value WiFi for keeping connected above the clouds, Air New Zealand offers free WiFi at which runs at a decent clip of 5-10Mbps (although video streaming is disabled, to maximise the shared bandwidth between all passengers).

Air New Zealand is the unchallenged winner if you want WiFi.
Air New Zealand is the unchallenged winner if you want WiFi.

Qantas doesn’t have WiFi fitted to its international fleet and doesn’t see that happening until at least late 2024, and more likely late 2025 on the first Project Sunrise A350 jets.

Qantas vs Air New Zealand: airfares

So how much will all this cost? Executive Traveller priced both a Qantas and Air New Zealand business class return trip from Sydney to New York in the first two weeks of November 2023.

While Air New Zealand hovers around the $13,000-14,000 mark, Qantas starts at $16,000 on the entry-level Business Sale ticket – the mid-range Business Saver options, which on many dates were the cheapest available, bump the return price up to $21,000.

If you’re planning a one-stop ‘long hop’ trip to New York with either Air New Zealand or Qantas, feel free to share your preference and the reasons behind it with other Executive Traveller readers in the comments area below.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

01 May 2019

Total posts 4

I did the QF3 flight last week from Auckland to NY, great flight all around in Business. On the return, be sure to check out the SOHO lounge at JFK, very nice lounge 

QFF

19 Sep 2013

Total posts 202

Wouldn’t bother with either from Perth, as it’s a lot easier to fly with Cathay one stop at HK, then onwards to JFK after a short break.

QFF

19 Sep 2013

Total posts 202

Wouldn't bother with either from Perth, as it's a lot easier to fly Cathay via a short stop at HK.

Depending on your time, SQ in First for around 18k would be my choice with plenty stop over options.

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

06 Mar 2015

Total posts 233

There's absolutely NO WAY I will ever travel in those horrible Air NZ Business Class seats again.

Very uncomfortable with hardly any privacy at all !!! , I hated every minute and if it wasn't for their great cabin service it would have been appalling.

Without doubt amongst the worst in J class seating there is. Maybe a lot better in 2024 but until then " a very big NO " from me.

02 Nov 2017

Total posts 21

Food and beverage wasn’t mentioned but in my experience Air NZ is vastly superior in that regard. I’ve flown both and I found Qantas Suite disappointing. There are no sheets and the crew don’t help to set up the bed. So different from Singapore and Qatar! I didn’t mind the AirNZ seat and it’s much more comfortable when a bed. Either way I’m sure passengers will be happy. Price is the real problem 

Etihad - Etihad Guest

06 Apr 2012

Total posts 124

Another difference between the Qantas and Air NZ offering is that the Qantas flight to/from New York can easily be booked as part of a 'multi-stop' itinerary  (eg. SYD > LHR > JFK > SYD) via the Qantas website.   The Air NZ website does not seem to offer this as a 'multi-stop' route option.  This is quite handy if you are, say, travelling to both Europe and New York in the one trip and you do not wish to backtrack on your route when returning to Australia. 

why on earth would you even waste your time trying to do an itinerary online. Get a travel agent to do it. Plenty of good travel agents out there, the only catch is, you might need a referral as the best ones are busy, VERY busy. They are much busier than pre covid.

24 Jun 2020

Total posts 47

I didn't like the AirNZ product either and I am giving the SQ option a run soon, so will be able to judge that one very soon.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

28 Sep 2021

Total posts 13

They also have in common, Kiwi cabin Crew from AKL-JFK on both QF & NZ

05 Jul 2023

Total posts 1

If you dont mind a longer flight between Australia and NYC, consider getting there by going west, not east.  I've been to NYC 5 times over the last 18 months, flying Business on one of Singapore, ANA or Qatar.  All offer great service and prices MUCH less than Qantas offers.  Yes it takes longer and the layover times in the connection cities can be longer - but given you are being looked after well by the airline and the saving are many thousdands of $$, it's worked well for me.   

catch 22 - u have to do customs & immigration at JFK after 20+ hours. If fly a nonstop to LAX or SFO, then next leg is a domestic flight to NYC & customs & immigration is already done. Find SFO a much better airport to transfer international to domestic than LAX.

26 Sep 2020

Total posts 14

Over $21k for Business Class. Makes $18k in First Class on QF1/2 seem like a bargain


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