Is Qantas planning a Premier Black credit card?

Here's my wishlist:

Regular points earn above 1 point per dollar uncapped

No annual fee/heavily reduced annual fee for the first year

No join fee for QANTAS Club

4 QANTAS Club lounge invitations

There are already a myriad ways to earn points. Which become meaningless if its difficult to spend them in anything other that economy.

Status credits are where it's really at.

My (NZ Issued) AIR NZ Card gives me status points, and that was the deciding factor when it came to me signing up for that particular one.

There are so many credit cards on the market earning points, SC's, lounge access, etc, etc

If QF really want people to take up and they want to create a premier "black" card, they need to think outside the box - a few SC's or sign on points just aint going to cut it - you can get ~80-100K points on any higher end credit card these days, and if you ware really a frequent traveler, is 50 or 75 or 100 SC's really going to cut it, you most likely at Gold or Plat anyway just with your annual travel if a new high end card is appealing anyway?

They need to offer what the Banks, Amex, etc are not offering - things that will lure travelers, perks that you wont get on other cards, or via Airline alliances.

Put the new card holders in the upgrade hierarchy for seats above Gold, for example

allow you to catch earlier or later flights on the day of travel, even if your seat code is different to what you have booked (sure with in the same class)

If you book your flight on the new card, you don't incur change fee's, etc

If QF have done workshops with actual travelers not just internal teams, etc as stated, these things would have come out from frequent travelers -

What is QF going to come out with for us to ditch our Amex's, etc and go for a branded MC or Visa from Qantas?

However, it can certainly improve on the perks. (Just like Citiprestige card, despite point earn becomes one of the worst, it's the perks that justifies the annual fee.) So perhaps like the AAdvantage card they have in US, the QF black card should have unlimited QF lounge access (or complimentary QC membership) maybe 2x/yr upgrade certificate on domestic flights (whenever classic award is available), increased luggage allowance....etc. It might not appeal to current QF gold or platinum members, but there are many QF loyal customers that can never reach gold/platinum with their work situation (not everyone travel for work!) and a card that'll give them similar perk to gold member will appeal to them.

I understand the thought a lot of people are having when they say free qantas club or equal gold perks however if they did that there would not longer be any need for all the current silver and gold members to stay loyal. Why spend 20K a year with an airline to reach status only to be outdone by a guy with a $400 a year credit card. On top of that the lounges would be flooded with people, they would not be the same.

I think realistically if they could do:

120,000 sign up bonus after 5K spend

2.5 points per dollar on Amex

1.5 points per dollar on MasterCard

1 point per dollar on govt spend

Yearly fees returned in form of a travel voucher

4 lounge passes

Proper travel and hire car insurance

Your choice between 20,000 bonus points or 50 status credits per year

That would be a realistic winning formula

In addition to the above posts

I like mentioned above the choice of either

Whatever they decide they need to have a compelling argument for loyalty and not to churn every 12 months (the latter is what sign up bonuses encourage).

My benchmark is they have to be better than ANZ Black. Apple pay, high signup bonus. 1:1, reduced/no fee first 12 months, uncapped earning (although reduced after 7kpm)

The perks for being loyal soon get whittled down if all it takes is to spend money on your credit card and as an infrequent flyer to get the same recognition.

1.x points earn on a M/C.

Forget status credits - these should be earned by flying. If they offer it should be token amount so as not to devalue those that earn them (max 50).

QF lounge access (unlimited). Not everyone at this income will be a high tier FF.

Perhaps F lounge passes but unlikely.

To be honest, a 1.25 or 1.5 point per dollar rate would be enough for me alone at around $400p.a.

Partner premium reduced fares year round.

Now that Citi has Apple Pay, no excuse for these cards not to have it.