Should Qantas "share" its hub?

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curly

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Should QANTAS "share" their hub?

A fellow ausbt-er Peter said last week that QANTAS is no good for flying to Asia unless you're from SYD. So what if QANTAS used different ports for different cities instead of just using SYD for most of their flights?

They could maybe use BNE for DFW exclusively and in the future YVR (please, please, please...skybed II's also)

Use SYD for NYC, PVG, MNL etc

Perhaps change SCL to MEL since they go south anyway and SYD is serviced with LA codeshare.

Maybe do CGK out of ADL and JNB out of PER.

If people need to go from one area to another anyway (CBR or CNS to go to BNE/SYD to get to SIN) why not just share it around a bit more to begin with? I fly overseas about 6 times a year so if I have to transit only 3 of those times instead of every time it will make it a little better for a lot of people.

I understand that SYD is seen as "the capital" but I really think that a system like this could work. We are one of the most urbanised countries on earth that is also incredibly isolated and we all want non-stop flights from our driveways.

Thoughts?

watson374

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No. Your forces are too distributed, but I see the idea.

I think we need a forward base hub (i.e. a multiple-scissor at SIN), lots of codeshare gateway hubs (e.g. PVG), and lots of long-and-thin thinking.

curly

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Do you remember someone suggesting to use DRW as this type of scissor hub recently? Not a bad idea I think with heavily upgraded facilities and aircraft of course. So an int. flight leaves from MEL, SYD, CBR, ADL, PER, BNE, and CNS every day at 5pm then flights go out to Asia from there 2 - 3 hours after everyone lands. Kinda like the massive inhale/exhale in DXB between 5 - 8 am each day. Could work if people could get their heads around the changes.

hutch

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The geographical benefit of DRW is it can serve some of Asia with narrow-body aircraft. Whether QF has the imagination to do this, is doubtful. DRW is also hindered by it's high access fees.

aklrunway

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That is absolutely absurd. Competing airlines offer DIRECT services to MEL, SYD, ADL, PER, BNE, and CNS so if Qantas redirected Asia flights via Darwin you'd be handing those competing airlines passengers on a silver platter.

hutch

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Is it? A number of ports are not served direct by airlines that fly into Australia. Is it a good idea for QF flew SYD-DRW-SIN, not really... but there are numerous destinations accesible by narrowbody from DRW which would never be economical with a wide-body from SYD etc.

driley28

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Some of your suggestions are fanciful.  QF needs to service routes where they can get most load factor and yield.  While I would like to see routes added eg. YVR, SFO, Mumbai,  and more routes from MEL, there is obviously little profit as it sits currently. 

driley28

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What QF need is 2 decent premium airlines in Asia to partner with eg. MH and CX, however this will never. 

hutch

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Agreed. Some strong asian partners would massively help QF.

driley28

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Also QANTAS needs a code share partner to operate services within South America e.g. LAN/TAM.

hutch

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Explain the codeshare benefits in south america?

PeterLoh

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Much like Asia, the economy of South America is booming and expected to continue growing. Qantas could position themselves as the leading carrier between the two continents in the future if they establish a comprehensive virtual network through codeshares on both continents.

hutch

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I agree with the growth of South America and I have written before that I think QF could make money flying to GRU. My questions was more, what could QF gain through a codeshare, which they don't already have through their ability to sell LATAM seats via oneworld alliance.

PeterLoh

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Qantas doesn't automatically have rights to sell tickets on other oneworld carriers. They can only do so through a codesharing agreements or from reward inventories.

hutch

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Sorry, that can't be correct. QF already sells LATAM tickets to a number of South American destinations under LA code. Fly QF code to SCL and then onwards to secondary destinations on LATAM metal on LA code. Additionally, QF puts passengers onto Dragonair flights on Dragonair code.

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