Will I have access to QF first lounge flying when flying on Jet Airways code share flight - Melbourne singapore on QF metal.

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oneill

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 27 Feb 2016

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Will I have access to QF first lounge flying when flying on Jet Airways code share flight - Melbourne singapore on QF metal. One world emerald / platinum, but I think fight and meta have to be one world, not just metal?

TheRealBabushka

Member since 21 Apr 2012

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If you are OW Emerald with other OW airlines besides Qantas then the answer is No.

Oneworld rules explicitly defines access when pax is flying on OW marketed and operated flight. Both conditions need to be met.

In your case the flights is not OW marketed (Jet Airways flight number). While it is a QF operated flight, only one condition is met. Therefore access is defined.

On the other hand, if you are QF Platinum, the Lounge Agents may make an exception for you. But be preapred to be turned away.

TheRealBabushka

Member since 21 Apr 2012

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defined = denied

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

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For oneworld emerald, needs to be oneworld marketed and operated flight 

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

Total posts 761

For oneworld emerald, needs to be oneworld marketed and operated flight 

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

Total posts 761

Beat me to it @TRB.

Interestingly, just noticed that for J lounges for example, QF Gold needs "Next onward flight that day must be on a Qantas^, Emirates^, Jetstar Airlines+ oroneworld operated and marketed flight.#", while QF club just needs "Next onward flight that day must be a Qantas^ or Jetstar Airlines+flight number."

Seems rather stupid.


TheRealBabushka

Member since 21 Apr 2012

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That is because access to the lounge under the QF Club provisions is different to access under the OW framework.

It is essentially two different regimes, which allow for similar outcomes in a majority of instances in the case of Qantas. Nevertheless a distinction exist.

 

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

Total posts 761

Not exactly correct TRB. OW framework does not apply here... QF chooses its own rules for its members when they are entering QF lounges.  This is why QF gold can have different rules to OW Sapphire. Also QF first can have different rules to OW first etc.

My point really is that it is odd for looser lounge access rules for Qclub members over QF members with status. For example a Qclub member can access the Singapore lounge when transiting to India on Jet (with QF code), whereas a gold member cannot.

oneill

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 27 Feb 2016

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Thanks - my OW Emerald is not with Qantas, and flying on Jet Airways marketed ticket (9Wxxx), but in QF J. Hopefully I'll get into the Qantas Business Lounge - I'd expect that if Jet is selling codeshare flights with them, they'd share the lounge, but nothing appears on Jet's webpage. 

I might try my luck in F lounge as well - can't hurt to try!

oneill

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 27 Feb 2016

Total posts 10

and reading the F lounge webpage again this morning

# A oneworld marketed flight refers to a flight with a oneworld flight number, eg QF1 or AA222. A oneworld operated flight refers to the actual aircraft or 'metal' on which you fly, eg Finnair aircraft.


Given that the QF flight will have a OW flights number -albeit not on my boarding pass if issued with 9W flight number and is in fact going to be on QF Metal (QF 35 MEL-SIN) does that mean there is scope to push the interpretation! (i.e. it's not explicitly marketed through non-OW marketing)!

Chris Chamberlin

Member since 24 Apr 2012

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You're on a Jet Airways-marketed flight with a 9W flight number, not a Oneworld marketed flight (which means with a Oneworld flight number).

You'll have access to the Qantas business class lounge being a business class ticket, but the rules don't allow you access to the Qantas First lounge with a Platinum frequent flyer card in this instance.

You can always ask but prepare to be sent to the business class lounge.

Next time, book a QF or other Oneworld flight number if you want to be guaranteed access to the First lounge, although I suspect you saved a little bit of money by booking on the Jet Airways code.

oneill

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 27 Feb 2016

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@ Chris - the god's favoured me - they printed a QF flight number on the ticket so no dramas at all getting in to QF F lounge!

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