With Qantas cancelling some flights to London and moving some flights on other routes to smaller aircraft,where should they re-deploy the A380,s.

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reno

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With Qantas cancelling some flights to London and moving some flights on other routes to smaller aircraft,where should they re-deploy the A380,s.I say move the A380,s to flights QF15/16 and QF7/8 booth these flights to the America,s are long overdue for upgrades,have a much higher load factors and make far more money than most all International flights the operate.The America,s including S/America is where the money is at.Would lile to here your thoughts.

alatar144

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Hi Robert, 

These cancelled flights are only on 3 non consecutive days. They have been cancelled due to low demand on those particular days. This is not sign of anything other than Qantas is being more responsible with flight management and it indicates that Qantas probably loses less money from cancelling the flight than from operating it, which is a great sign of responsible flight planning. 

Becuase of this, it is not necessary to do redeployments of aircraft.

reno

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Alatar144,

I understand that but my concerns are as to weather they really need these flights in the first place and as to weather these flights with those loads as stated 64% will be re-instated.At best there after if loads to Dubai are justifyable -then codeshare on Emirates Dubai/LHR.There is no way QF need 2 flights a day to LHR its a dead market for them...fly routes that make money.I also believe they QF will in the near future cut the flight listed permanantly to LHR and quite probably Dubai.

alatar144

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As there is publicly available information on loads it is impossible to speculate. Even then, load factors give no indication whatsoever of yields. General information from various news sources indicate that Qantas is by no means alone in having weaker than normal loads for this time of year, so this could simply be a one off occasion.

It is up to Qantas and analysts who have actual facts to decide whether 2 flights a day to LHR is needed from Qantas. I strongly suspect that two are indeed necessary. Qantas will be changing times for the MEL-LHR-MEL services later this year. It is necessary to wait until changes have been made and results come through to see.

watson374

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What I expect to see is a shift to a near-midnight departure from MEL, arriving in DXB in the early morning and LHR in the late morning - this will then park for half a day then form the current SYD night departure, arriving in DXB in the mid-morning and SYD in the early morning.

Then there is the current afternoon SYD departure, stopping in DXB around midnight and arriving in LHR in the early morning. This then parks for a few hours and form a late-morning MEL departure - calling at DXB in the late evening and arriving in MEL in the early evening just in time for the last wave of connections.

Zing.

hutch

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I like it in general... but isn't it just moving downtime to Melbourne overnight? With this, have you calculated how many A380's are saved?

 

watson374

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I think you can save one by doing this and moving the MEL-LAX to an evening departure.

hutch

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I find it unlikey that QF will move MEL-LAX move to an evening departure.

watson374

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Massive saving in LAX turnaround time, though.

hutch

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There is a massive saving in time.  I think we've had this discussion before. I know what you are trying to achieve, but can't see QF doing it (and I probably wouldn't do it either if I found myself in QF Management).

I think there is good potential to seperate out the two SYD-LAX flights (morning & evening) and then turn them around at LAX. I would leave BNE/MEL timings alone as they are timed for arrivals in those markets.

reno

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While i agree parking aircraft costs....mark my words it a lot cheaper at LAX than SYD?MEL?or BNE.

reno

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Hutch your right,no late am or early afternoon slots in LAX and a huge connect flight factor....absolutly will not happen.

watson374

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There are plenty of red-eye flights to connect to from LAX, on both US and AA.

watson374

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hutch, I'll agree to the split SYD flights.

reno

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Most all pax do not whih to travel on a red eye.

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