With Qantas cancelling some flights to London and moving some flights on other routes to smaller aircraft,where should they re-deploy the A380,s.

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am

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Actually, traffic data (which can very easily be used to determine loads by dividing the number of passengers carried by the number of seats available) is released by all airlines on a monthly basis via the BITRE. 

Also, QF releases monthly traffic statistics via their website, which don't provide specific details on individual routes but do break down performance based on each individual part of the business. This data also provides a comparison to the same period 12 months earlier, and has shown a very strong downward trend in both load factor and yeild at QF over the last couple of years. 

If you know where to look then it's very easy to get a fairly clear picture of how things are going. Unfortunately, the media doesn't understand what the data means hence we end up with figures like that 64% (which IIRC refers to cargo loads on a single route on Christmas Day or something equally ridiculous). 

But I do agree with your second point. Qantas knows what they're doing far better than we all do (even those of us who have worked in the industry at one time or another). 

watson374

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Why worry about the A380s? Come join my campaign for better A330s :P

abudhabi1

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Make Hong Kong all A380's and Tokyo possibly upgrade the day services to Singapore out of Melbourne and Sydney to them.

reno

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No where enough pax to justify 1 A380 to HKG....may be more flights to HKG....A330only....Tokyo for get about it. 

watson374

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SYD-HKG is already A380, but MEL and BNE remain A330s. SIN needs frequency, not whaling - more than 1-2 flights a day, more like 2-3 flights a day. Again, A330s.

NRT, PVG, CGK, MNL, HNL all A330s.

See why their refurbishment is so important?

reno

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HKG is a no market,replace it with your A330...The A380 can be freed up for far better use on other sectors to America,s.

watson374

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Only two American flights have no A380s - BNE-LAX-BNE and SYD-DFW-BNE-SYD. The current 12 cannot fly to DFW nonstop. Can you prove there is demand on BNE?

reno

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I put it to you South American flights would also be far better served thu A380,s than HKG and aditoinal services to LHR out of MEL.And again the A380 can fly SYD/DFW/BNE/SYD. Please get it, its about making more money on US sectors and not about a looking good in a timetable.

hutch

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What's these additional services to MEL/LHR? The current service is just the status quo.

And whilst you can rightly put forward your arguments til the cows come home, timing of flights is part of the process to make money - not some after thought (particularly for an end of line carrier like QF).

Noting that an A380 can do SYD-HKG-SYD in around the same time it will take to do one leg of SYD-DFW and that QF has monopoly on high yield SYD-HKG first class flights. However, if they free up an aircraft with LHR changes, there is benefit in SYD-DFW changing into an A380.... Ben Sandilands (crikey) has previously indicated that QF was looking at a SYD-AKL-DFW routing both ways (which supposedly is a fully loaded A380), whether that eventuates is another question.

watson374

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I didn't know that Ben Sandilands mentioned SYD-AKL-DFW! I'm sure that would have quite the following.

SunniiGym

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I would like to see an article on that. 

reno

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Old news...Remember QF pulled out of tis route a few years ago and i recall even Hutch said it was unprofitable and no need to go into AKL.

watson374

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That was AKL-LAX.

hutch

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Yes that was AKL-LAX... I wonder if QF had better product (ie Watson's upgraded A330) whether they could compete on AKL-LAX? Who knows... and its a side issue.

hutch

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Considering QF has started charging a $50 'Q surcharge' for DFW due to demand, an A380 makes very good sense. My understanding is that the current model can't do DFW with appropriate loads non-stop. If they got a couple of newer models this could be done easily... but in the meantime, let's see what the MEL-LHR reschedule brings.

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