While checking out MH website tonight, I came across MH's promo for their A333 new business class seats that are arriving in April 16.

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While checking out MH website tonight, I came across MH's promo for their A333 new business class seats that are arriving in April 16. I don't remember seeing any news on this on this site, hence the post. (Please ignore this if this has been featured here!) Looks like MH has incorporated both the 1 2 1 and 2 2 2 configurations in their J class!

djcz

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 28 Feb 2014

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Looks great but... they dont fly into BNE anymore so, still QF/CX for me.

StudiodeKadent

Member since 20 May 2015

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Going by the website, its the same Thompson Vantage arrangement as Aer Lingus. 90% of seats have direct aisle access but not all of them do, and the seat width is 20.6".

So it won't be as good as Cathay or Singapore or Qantas. However it will be an improvement over their old product and the density advantage should (in theory) allow them to price substantially less than the other carriers (and given MH's somewhat tainted brand they will need to).

eminere

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 25 Sep 2013

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There is no density advantage. The business cabin has dropped from 36 to 27 seats.

StudiodeKadent

Member since 20 May 2015

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I was speaking of the density advantage relative to an all-aisle-access product such as a Thompson Vantage XL or Zodiac Cirrus (and hence, their density advantage relative to Cathay, Qantas and Singapore). I'm quite aware that Vantage is less dense than their previous angle-flat product.  

eminere

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 25 Sep 2013

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No, you were speaking about density advantage as it relates to pricing.  Now that there is a less dense business cabin, with fewer seats available for sale, how would this "allow them to price substantially less than the other carriers"?

StudiodeKadent

Member since 20 May 2015

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Because MH's new business class cabin will have more business class seats in the same space than Cathay, Qantas or SQ. Holding Business Class cabin space constant (I fully accept this is a tenuous assumption given these three airlines do face different levels of demand for Business Class), this means MH will have more Business seats they can offer per flight (relative to CX, QF or SQ).

Higher-density seating generally translates into lower fares.

 

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