QF 21 / 22 SYD-NRT. Has anyone flown on this route recently? If so is QF "practically" using the flat bed (i.e. refurbished 744) or angled (unrefurbished 744) business class seats on this route. The QF website is rather"enigmatic" on this issue as it suggest that it could use different 744 seating configurations. I don't want to book a ticket and only discover the less comfortable seating configuration after the event.
This flight is constantly changing aircraft configs, there's usually a reconfigured 747 50% of the time so it's quite unpredicatable. There are sites that help to find out what config is scheduled before you book (i think Expert Flyer is one of the ones that offer a free trial) but QF can still swap planes last minute. Hope this helps
Thanks FF - "unpredictable" seems to be by-word. Wish QF would be more consistent on this sector as they are both night time flights. I will try your suggestion re Expert Flyer. I will be flying out on Sat 16th August and returning on Sat 30th August. My other alternative is to take a longer route via CX.
If it's worth anything, I am booked on this same flight for this upcoming February. The seatmap shows a reconfigured 747 with lie-flat seats.
If you're worried about it, you could book with Qantas' OneWorld partner, JAL. It is still a angled-flat seat, but it is a daytime flight crossing only one timezone, so sleep won't be particularly important.
Thanks Moa999. Very interesting and useful website which I have now bookmarked. I was trying to figure out from the website whether or not there is a pattern in the aircraft and seats used for this sector - but failed to see one. It seems that QF has been using all the different ypes of 747 seat configurations (refurbished and unrefurbished) on this route! Expert flyer is telling me that angled seats will be used on this sector for my proposed dates.
I too have a booking on QF22 in Sept, and for my date it is showing a config with first class sold as business. I have seat selection for one of these, rather than sit upstairs.
Though I am not fussed at all by new/old skybed question. Angled lie flats dont bother me. Just grab an extra pillow, shove it under your feet, and go to sleep on your back or side. I would not ever dream of adding a connection on CX just to avoid the QF old skybed.
Remember even if going CX, occasionally they will have to do a last minute aircraft swap. I have enjoyed (not!) the pleasure of coming back from HKG to SYD on the midnight CX flight that had a last minute swap to a regional confg.
I flew this route a few weeks ago and the SYD-NRT route was the old config (angled) and the return was the new config (flat). The outbound plane on my route still had the old First class seats so if you can book a seat in the pointy part you might get a flat bed. The service I received from the staff on those flights were among the best I have received in a long time (I tend to fly SQ or CX).
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QF 21 / 22 SYD-NRT. Has anyone flown on this route recently? If so is QF "practically" using the flat bed (i.e. refurbished 744) or angled (unrefurbished 744) business class seats on this route. The QF website is rather"enigmatic" on this issue as it suggest that it could use different 744 seating configurations. I don't want to book a ticket and only discover the less comfortable seating configuration after the event.
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This flight is constantly changing aircraft configs, there's usually a reconfigured 747 50% of the time so it's quite unpredicatable. There are sites that help to find out what config is scheduled before you book (i think Expert Flyer is one of the ones that offer a free trial) but QF can still swap planes last minute. Hope this helps
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Thanks FF - "unpredictable" seems to be by-word. Wish QF would be more consistent on this sector as they are both night time flights. I will try your suggestion re Expert Flyer. I will be flying out on Sat 16th August and returning on Sat 30th August. My other alternative is to take a longer route via CX.
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If it's worth anything, I am booked on this same flight for this upcoming February. The seatmap shows a reconfigured 747 with lie-flat seats.
If you're worried about it, you could book with Qantas' OneWorld partner, JAL. It is still a angled-flat seat, but it is a daytime flight crossing only one timezone, so sleep won't be particularly important.
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www.theqantassource.com also provides historical aircraft information.
Click on the Qantas Tracker tab and enter flight as qf21
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Thanks Moa999. Very interesting and useful website which I have now bookmarked. I was trying to figure out from the website whether or not there is a pattern in the aircraft and seats used for this sector - but failed to see one. It seems that QF has been using all the different ypes of 747 seat configurations (refurbished and unrefurbished) on this route! Expert flyer is telling me that angled seats will be used on this sector for my proposed dates.
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I too have a booking on QF22 in Sept, and for my date it is showing a config with first class sold as business. I have seat selection for one of these, rather than sit upstairs.
Though I am not fussed at all by new/old skybed question. Angled lie flats dont bother me. Just grab an extra pillow, shove it under your feet, and go to sleep on your back or side. I would not ever dream of adding a connection on CX just to avoid the QF old skybed.
Remember even if going CX, occasionally they will have to do a last minute aircraft swap. I have enjoyed (not!) the pleasure of coming back from HKG to SYD on the midnight CX flight that had a last minute swap to a regional confg.
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I flew this route a few weeks ago and the SYD-NRT route was the old config (angled) and the return was the new config (flat). The outbound plane on my route still had the old First class seats so if you can book a seat in the pointy part you might get a flat bed. The service I received from the staff on those flights were among the best I have received in a long time (I tend to fly SQ or CX).