Exciting News Qantas pilot pay deal allowing 787s agreed by pilots!

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Chris2304

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 10 Apr 2013

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I believe AJ and his team know that they have to make a discernible difference between Jetstar's and Qantas' 787s when it come to configuration. 

Jedinak K

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 06 Sep 2012

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If QF does deplot 2-4-2, it will only be for short-medium haul routes (to Asia). My personal opinion is that 2-4-2 economy seating won't work for long haul routes, because prices will rise up due to reduced seating capacity to compensate for the cost of fuel needed. Hence 'Dreamliner' loses its 'unbeatable economics' tagline. This could be offsetted by adding Premium Economy, but I wouldn't bank on it. That's why so many airlines who fly the B787 have 3-3-3 economy seating. It really depends on the fleet planning and logistics by QF. 

Chris2304

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As I said they could use the 3-3-3 cozy suite for economy for 19" width seats from Thompson. I think it would make sense since their using the business class suite from them as well

StudiodeKadent

Member since 20 May 2015

Total posts 109

I agree with you Christopher. Not only that, but Thompson Cozy Suites at 3-3-3 with a 19" seat width (and all the other perks like individual upper body space and armrests) ALSO make it perfectly possible for QF to meet their 275-pax capacity target (28 Business, 32 Premium Economy, 215 Economy). Seriously, its a perfectly plausible configuration, would greatly improve seat comfort and capacity at the same time, AND immensely improve Qantas' competitiveness.

Like you said in another post, its important to differentiate QF from Jetstar. A CozySuite economy product could easily do that, and win back passengers from the Asian carriers and the Middle East 3.

I hope Qantas make the right decision.

Chris2304

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Member since 10 Apr 2013

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One this is for PE would this just be the cozy suite but 2-3-2 and wider seat like 21" and better pitch?

StudiodeKadent

Member since 20 May 2015

Total posts 109

Actually I would hope Qantas would pick a more traditional seat for PE. I was thinking of a Stelia Celeste seat actually (because it keeps the fixed back shell of the CozySuite but apparently the sled recline makes it very comfortable for sleeping, and also because the back doesn't recline the seat can fit into a smaller space with consistent levels of recline). But yeah, I was thinking it would be 21" wide (like Virgin Atlantic's PE) and with a 38" pitch (so therefore, they'd have a 19" wide and 31" pitch in Economy, 21" wide and 38" pitch in Premium, and 23" wide and 45" pitch in Business... so its a nice linear progression as you go up the classes).

Chris2304

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 10 Apr 2013

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Yeah that sounds great, let's just hope AJ and his team are thinking the same. 

Mightyreds

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Member since 09 Feb 2015

Total posts 65

Still struggle to see what all the fuss is about with 787. I am sure the A350 is a better aircraft. I know the A380 is.

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