Does Alan Joyce really know what he is doing?

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AirportAddict

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 05 Jan 2012

Total posts 175

Does Alan Joyce really know what he is doing? I just ask the question feeling somewhat doubtful about the guy. Should a person that has come from running the low cost carrier, jetstar, really be running Qantas? What is the general opinion? I may be wrong. Just seeking to clear it up.

AlG

Member since 04 Nov 2010

Total posts 155

I'm sure he does, the thing is that not everybody else will agree that what Alan Joyce is doing is right. Big difference. I'd like to see how John Borghetti would have handled things had he landed the top job instead of Alan Joyce, I reckon JB would have had more panache and better staff & union relations than AJ, but to be fair Alan Joyce is facing tough times and there are no quick fixes, no easy ways out, if there were he would have done them by now. I think his splitting Qantas into Domestic and International was very smart and a good first step though. But people who want everything to be magically fixed overnight without any pain or loss of what they currently have need to get a dose oif reality.

aero-seat

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 23 May 2012

Total posts 178

My idea of Alan Joyce was that he wasn't worried about the then-Virgin Blue because there was Jetstar until it rebranded as a full-service airline where it grew massively. He tried to make V Australia seem weak by introducing the Qantas A380. He tried to make Virgin Australia's partnership with Singapore Airlines useless by trying to create Qantasia and getting former-Virgin partner Malaysia Airlines on its side. He tries to win the top money spenders by making world-class Qantas First Lounges and Chairman's Lounges. He got more scared when Virgin Australia combined and rebranded Velocity Frequent Flyer. He thinks he understands what Borghetti is doing when Borghetti is thinking the complete opposite. Wake up Alan Joyce! Virgin Australia is actually profiting unlike yourself, it is basically toe-to-toe with its services.

AlG

Member since 04 Nov 2010

Total posts 155

You need to check your dates and your history, Aero-Seat.

"He tried to make V Australia seem weak by introducing the Qantas A380" AJ wasn't head of Qantas when they took delivery of the A380, in fact you will find John Borghetti is the Qantas guy quoted a lot in the A380 launch press releases, and as if Qantas was even thinking one iota about V Australia as a 'threat' when it bought up big on the A380s!!!

"He tried to make Virgin Australia's partnership with Singapore Airlines useless by trying to create Qantasia and getting former-Virgin partner Malaysia Airlines on its side" Qantasia was announced long before the Virgin-SQ partnership, and MAS was never a heard-hitting DJ partner, it's actually going into OneWorld not just some Qantas partnership.

"He tries to win the top money spenders by making world-class Qantas First Lounges and Chairman's Lounges." Oh FFS, these were around for LONG before Alan Joyce took over Qantas, AJ was still at Jetstar when the QF First lounge opened, this and the Chairman's Lounge were also John Borghetti initiatives!

If you are going to argue against Alan Joyce at least get your facts right.

aero-seat

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 23 May 2012

Total posts 178

Sorry Al, I wasn't so sure about the exact facts until I got my Designer job and did a little for both Virgin Australia and Qantas. I apologise for that.

TheRealBabushka

Member since 21 Apr 2012

Total posts 2,059

Is Virgin Australia lumbered with its equivelant of the Qantas Sales Act? To what extent is this piece of legislation preventing Qantas operating freely in an open market, with unrestraint competitors?

Badly designed legislation tends to bring unintended consequences i.e Sarbanes-Oxley (Dodd-Frank?...time will tell). Will history remark on the irony of a quasi nationalistic protectionist policy, which eventually percipitates Qantas' demise?

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