Cathay Pacific goes 10 abreast in economy on Boeing 777s

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reeves35

Member since 24 Aug 2011

Total posts 55

CX has joined most other airlines in downgrading their economy class product on the Boeing 777-300ER to 10 abreast.  This means that of the regular 777 airlines flying to Australia, only VA, SQ and Thai remain 9 abreast.  It will also mean that CX's economy product on the A350 and A330 will be significantly better than the 777.

aldrigsomandre

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 31 Aug 2015

Total posts 86

Horrible choice. 3-3-3 is the way to go in Economy for 777's.

JacobW

QFF

Member since 16 Oct 2015

Total posts 7

It's kinda weird they put 9 abreast on A350 which has a slightly wider cabin, while 10 abreast on B777 which has a slightly narrower cabin

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

Total posts 761

the B777-300 is slightly wider than an A350.

MCA

Member since 13 Dec 2013

Total posts 3

Really disappointing news from such an excellent airline. Sad to see a brilliant aircraft such as the 777 now one to avoid from an ever growing list of airlines.

hutch

Member since 07 Oct 2012

Total posts 761

Really disappointing news from such an excellent airline. Sad to see a brilliant aircraft such as the 777 now one to avoid from an ever growing list of airlines.

Whilst I agree that this ruins the appeal of CX, I think the problem is the wider population doesn't really care. They just pay for an economy ticket on the carrier to get them there... many people wouldn't know the difference between plane types they areally offered to fly. 

So unless the airline can extract enough extra money to cover the cost of less seats, I think we'll eventually continue to see the race to the bottom with Y seating. 

haz1003

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 11 Nov 2014

Total posts 7

It is a shame that airlines continue the race to the bottom with Y seating. I am 6'2" and struggle to get comfortable. I try and budget for a premium economy ticket where possible but sometimes the prices can be too high for that.

Tim Saunders

Member since 13 Sep 2016

Total posts 30

Really disappointing news from such an excellent airline. Sad to see a brilliant aircraft such as the 777 now one to avoid from an ever growing list of airlines.

Whilst I agree that this ruins the appeal of CX, I think the problem is the wider population doesn't really care. They just pay for an economy ticket on the carrier to get them there... many people wouldn't know the difference between plane types they areally offered to fly. 

So unless the airline can extract enough extra money to cover the cost of less seats, I think we'll eventually continue to see the race to the bottom with Y seating. 


I agree Hutch, while a lot of people complain about 3-4-3, or even 3-3-3 on the Qantas Boeing 787, but the bottom line is that 99 percent of the ticket-buying public won't care, they are buying on price and will make do with a tighter fit and grumble about it a bit but any airline which sticks to less dense economy seating will find themselves at a disadvantage to the lower fares of other airlines.

Rita Cavanagh

Member since 01 Dec 2011

Total posts 7

I flew economy to Europe this year-QF, A380, 3-4-3.  I had a middle seat, with an entertainment box under the seat in front.  I now say never again will I fly more than 7 or 8 hours in economy!  An aisle seat might have been OK, but I won't take that risk again--next year, business to USA, should be worth the extra.  I was lucky, I got it in the global sale.

FLX1

Member since 31 Mar 2016

Total posts 37

It's kinda weird they put 9 abreast on A350 which has a slightly wider cabin, while 10 abreast on B777 which has a slightly narrower cabin
Interesting math you have there.  Max cabin width per OEM specs:
350=221in(5.61m)
777=231in(5.87m)

How can something with 221in being "slightly wider" than something with 231in?

FLX1

Member since 31 Mar 2016

Total posts 37

Really disappointing news from such an excellent airline. Sad to see a brilliant aircraft such as the 777 now one to avoid from an ever growing list of airlines.
No need to avoid 777 if:
A) one is not flying in Y cabin class which is not the discussion focus of this website/forum anyway as I hv been reminded repeatedly by the administrators/editors here.
B) Wait 3.5yrs when 77X enter commercial service.  It's designed to hv equivalent seat width @ 10 abreast as the 350 @ 9 abreast.

FLX1

Member since 31 Mar 2016

Total posts 37

Really disappointing news from such an excellent airline. Sad to see a brilliant aircraft such as the 777 now one to avoid from an ever growing list of airlines.

Whilst I agree that this ruins the appeal of CX, I think the problem is the wider population doesn't really care. They just pay for an economy ticket on the carrier to get them there... many people wouldn't know the difference between plane types they areally offered to fly. 

So unless the airline can extract enough extra money to cover the cost of less seats, I think we'll eventually continue to see the race to the bottom with Y seating. 
For a typical consumer searching for a Y ticket to take him fm A to B and back these days, he visits expedia.com, orbitz.com, priceline.com, etc. to do his online shopping comparison.  A few sites will reveal seat pitch/leg room for particular flight but I hv never came across 1 which shows seat width.

Typically, the flight by any known airline brand with the lowest advertised price always win and even if seat width data is available, I suspect the same outcome....

Indirectly, it's the consumers which dictate which seat width is most popular via their aggregate purchase decisions.

elchriss0

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 13 Jan 2015

Total posts 80

Oh well luckily i only use SQ to Europe

Jedinak K

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 06 Sep 2012

Total posts 99

It's kinda weird they put 9 abreast on A350 which has a slightly wider cabin, while 10 abreast on B777 which has a slightly narrower cabin
Interesting math you have there.  Max cabin width per OEM specs:
350=221in(5.61m)
777=231in(5.87m)

How can something with 221in being "slightly wider" than something with 231in?

@FLX 5.87m-5.61m is 0.26m which is less than the length of a school ruler. Compared to the overall dimensions of an aircraft it isn that much of a big difference.

Ian_from_HKG

CX

Member since 05 Jun 2012

Total posts 56

@FLX 5.87m-5.61m is 0.26m which is less than the length of a school ruler. Compared to the overall dimensions of an aircraft it isn that much of a big difference.

Not that much of a difference in itself, but when you take a hollow tube, make it wider by "less than the length of a school ruler" and then cram in another column of seats, you might just find it makes ALL the difference

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