Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 11 Jan 2017
Total posts 10
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 08 Feb 2016
Total posts 83
It is always better to book a rewards business class ticket as it is a confirmed ticket rather than upgrading. It is a better use of your points. The only problem is finding one on the site! March is quite soon and there may not have any rewards tickets left. I guess if you are looking to book a rewards ticket, be open minded with travel dates. As you are Gold member, you would be able to access more rewards tickets, so good luck!
The thing with upgrading with Qantas is that you need to make sure you are flying on Qantas metal and Qantas marked. Upgrades are also not confirmed until much closer to departure so you may be 'stuck in business' if you are purchasing a business ticket outright with cash.
Good Luck mate! Hope it pays off!
Member since 13 Sep 2016
Total posts 30
Hi Carl, for starters try reading this AusBT article which looks at when it's better value to book an award seat with Qantas points vs booking a normal seat and requesting an upgrade: https://www.ausbt.com.au/are-business-class-upgrades-still-a-great-use-of-qantas-points and this one on upgrading to Qantas first class: https://www.ausbt.com.au/how-to-use-qantas-frequent-flyer-points-to-upgrade-to-first-classIt's definitely easy to apply for an upgrade online, in fact if you do this over the phone Qantas will charge you a fee.So if I wanted to treat myself to first class but guarantee business
class I assume I buy a business class seat in cash and then request an
upgrade to first using points?Yes, that's exactly the way to do it, but first compare the cost of a business class ticket vs any 'first saver' deals as there might not be that much between them. Also if it's just you flying there is a better chance of being upgraded than if your partner is also on the same booking, because airlines usually prefer not to 'split' couples.Also look to fly on a quieter day of the week, such as Tuesday through Thursday, when there is more likely to be empty first class suites which can be made available for an upgrade.Good luck!
Member since 08 Jun 2014
Total posts 308
Depends what you wish to achieve? You may find business class tickets for 5-6k with carriers whose business product is not far off Qantas First ( ie the new Air France product via Singapore with Australia to Singapore on Singapore Airlines) depending on your dates. I do NOT rate the QF business class product to Europe, their first class product is however good if not great. If you want to use Qantas points for a business ticket, try to secure a ticket on Cathay Pacific, Emirates or Qatar, all of whom have a vastly superior product to Qantas. I wouldn't book business class with the hope of a first class upgrade as $8.5k for that product is overpriced.
If you are set on booking business class with Qantas and trying for a first class upgrade, sign up to ExpertFlyer and search the first class loads on the flights you wish to upgrade. No point booking business class if first class has 1 or 2 seats remaining as there will be several Platinum or Platinum One flyers competing with you for those upgrades.
Member since 04 Nov 2011
Total posts 203
There is no guide as such, just that most here will use abbreviations etc. Obanpointer is referring to the product on Air France (AF) to Singapore which then becomes Singapore Airlines to Australia (SQ).
Member since 24 Apr 2012
Total posts 1,115
Hi Carl,No need for a guide: we've edited the post above so that it's readable in 'plain English'. :)Obanpointer: We always appreciate when readers offer their help, although unlike some websites which rely on an array of abbreviations and codes (which is very confusing to first-timers), we tend to just speak 'plain English' here (with the odd abbreviation like LAX which most people tend to recognise), particularly so that newcomers can understand the tips being given and the information being discussed, and feel welcome to join in with their own. :)
Thanks everyone. The most helpful forum I have ever joined.
Member since 12 Apr 2013
Total posts 870
If money not an issue (though my accountant told me that they always are) I would buy business and request upgrade to first.If you decides to buy business by points then look at two separate booking by CX - MEL-HKG and HKG-LHR. For some freaking reason you well so often can buy separate booking and cannot buy "whole" ticket.Yet alternative solution would be buy one sector by points and other by money.Whatever you do just keep in mind that spending points on Classic Reward is time consuming exercise that required a lot of patience. If you do not have either the best solution would be buy business and request upgrade.Good Luck
Member since 23 Feb 2016
Total posts 59
I tend to agree with Russell, but what would like to get out of your flight. A good business experience or a crack at a first experience. You have gold status so I assume you are not a complete novice traveler.
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