Well where does Qantas go from here.

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reno

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Member since 20 Sep 2013

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Well where does Qantas go from here.With the recent statements by carriers such as Qatar,Emirates,Etihad and some others.Does one really believe Qantas can compete to LHR.. ect at this end of the aircraft.While to the US Qantas may offer the only true First Class,i see challenges on the horizon to LHR if the do not upgrade the cabin....And as yet we here nothing and getting further behind the competition.

Great news to see Qantas fly the A380 to DFW and non stop on the RT to Sydney.How about getting that reconfigured 744 on another sector from say SYD/BNE/or MEL to SFO or Additional flight to LAX with a mid afternoon departure from LAX or SFO as QF did in the early 90,s arriving SYD before the curfew or BNE.WILL make more money than any Asian sector.

And by the way you no who you are the A380 really can do DFW?SYD.

watson374

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It can do it, but not entirely without restrictions. Just like what we told you the last time you brought this up.

Now, the following content is going to have a slant on it, as it's the part of the network directly relevant to me. The product on the Asian routes needs to be improved significantly to compete with Asian powerhouse carrier such as SQ and CX. No, QF will never beat them in Asia, but that's not the point. The point is to be a reasonably competitive second player that can attract and support a worthwhile customer base.

To this end, I'd like to see a revamp of the A330 hard product in Business, Premium Economy and Economy, a rethink of the schedule emphasising multi-daily convenient timings, and a better-designed second meal (not bigger, just better thought-out).

reno

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Member since 20 Sep 2013

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Watson,

Regarding the A380 you told me nothing...in fact you said it could not be done..full stop,regardless of your restrictions.That said the A380 is a great aircraft which i like to fly.Its more fuel efficent and pax load restrictions will be all but eliminated to the odd southbound sector to Sydney..but less than the 744 currently operating the sector.Qantas direct most all cargo thru LAX and along with the Qantas  Q surcharge they will make more money than ever.

I respect your comments but  you follow scheduals and  i ask you say Qantas make money to Asia,but make more money to the US should they not go for where the money is and with a better profit line per sector..And i totally agree with your A330 product statements.This not only should ,but could have been done 12 plus months ago as the new full well they were going to defer 787 deliveries

AusFlyer

Member since 10 Mar 2011

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The thing is, yes, the Middle Eastern airlines are putting a lot of money and effort into having an amazing First Class experience, but First Class is not where an airline makes money so I would suggest that Qantas need not worry too much about making drastic changes to the their First product.

What is more important is that Qantas keep up with their Business (such as looking at offering direct aisle access for all Business passengers - like with the new A330 product when it is finally here) and making sure that Economy is up to par. Focusing on service levels and being competitive is more important that having an apartment offering in First Class. There just is not the demand in Australia to have a product like that... there is barely enough demand to have First Class at all.

undertheradar Banned

Member since 28 Oct 2011

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i agree with 'watson374'...and QF cant be the airline it was in the 'good 'ol days'.. it can no longer fly 'everywhere for everyone'.. it has its base in a country that is geographically 'at the end (or beginning) of the line' ... high wages/costs/high cost of living in OZ.. and small population relative to its size... QF is downsizing..smaller fleet..'select' routes...it has to use twice as many aircraft to fly its 1stop/2sector routes as opposed to those countries in the 'middle of the line' which is a huge cost/use of resources...non stop/1 sector flights are the way QF will survive.. and its alliances will take care of the rest..the LHR exception survives for 'historic' reasons..QF doesnt need to be the 'biggest and best' to survive..at the moment it just needs to do 'enough' to ge back 'in the black' and survive in the markets it serves (and yes that includes the 330 cabin upgrade/schedules)....and once that happens....then they can perhaps contemplate 'expansion'...just my opinion

undertheradar Banned

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ooops..and same goes for the NYC sector...just for a slightly different reason...'prestige'/'brand presence' on the east coast of USA.. QF in NEW YORK is a successful 'partnership'

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