I hope not. A380s are magnificent from a passenger perspective and I feel far more comfortable on long ocean sectors with 4 engines. A QF captain once told me: "If they ever make one with 5 engines, we''ll buy it".
I believe Qantas will replace their A380's with the 777X's but with their ageing A330 fleet they will either get the 787-9 or 10's or the 777X.
I don't see Qantas ordering many more Airbus planes unless something blows the market out. I think after they ordered the 787's they made it obvious. I would like to see some more 747's come into the Australian market.
You mean the 6 B747 ERs replaced by B777-9/8X. Yeah I agree. Sydney to New York first 8X route, AJ seems very interested in that plane for that particular route.
Well moa999 is correct in that there are 6 B747-400ERs and 3 B747-400 that are refurbished and are to be retired well after the B787s start arriving. With QF's stated 250 pax capacity on B787s they aren't a 747 replacement in terms of size, only in terms of range.
IMHO A380 ugliest plane ever. Airbus produced few if any nice looking planes and A380 is definitely “pinnacle” of their design. If QF likes to have 4-engine guzzler (I actually feel more comfortable in one) then 747-8 is the best. Otherwise 777 will be just fine. Generally I feel that it was quite a mistake from QF to acquire so many such big planes.
That's probably the most ridiculous argument a Boeing fanboy could ever give.
I bet that you will not find a single airline executive in the world that justifies the airline's aircraft purchasing decisions based on "Hey, Airbuses are ugly, we should not buy them".
I am 100% confident that Qantas will purchase future aircraft based on how well they are going to fit its finanical goals, rather than "I kinna love Boeings more" type of nonsense...
Nothing wrong if you have different opinion, but cannot get why you so sarcastic :-) Tupolev (one of famous Soviet airplane designer) said once “Ugly aircraft will never fly”. Obviously he was wrong seeing what flying today. And BTW I am not Boeing fanboy (hate 767 and glad that QF does not fly them anymore), but indeed fanboy of 747 and I will miss this great airplane in our skies once QF finishes with them. And FWIF 747-8 is on par from economy POV with 380. Nothing supergreat about 380 – just double-decked hangar with wings :-))) And with joystick instead of proper yoke :-)))
And do not be upset – judging how many vote down my post I definitely conclude that there are far more A380 fanboys here :-))
The A380 seems, for most airlines, to be ahead of its time and unnecessary. However demand for aircraft of its size is increasing and we may well find that Qantas has a use for more of them. Joyce was complaining they would fly more to HKG if they could find more slots. Just might be they need A380’s for that route in the future if they need additional capacity.
Your suggestions seem quite valid. The big problem QF and AJ are facing now is a lack of capacity with little room to move when technical issue arise, and they do now the the utilisation factor has good up on the big birds.
They need the additional A380's - even if just to make their LAX/DFW/SFO/DXB capacity sufficient to handle the tech gripes that keep occuring.
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777X a possible replacement for Qantas's A380's?
PlaneFlyer
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777X a possible replacement for Qantas's A380's? What are your thoughts?
F8
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I hope not. A380s are magnificent from a passenger perspective and I feel far more comfortable on long ocean sectors with 4 engines. A QF captain once told me: "If they ever make one with 5 engines, we''ll buy it".
PlaneFlyer
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Agreed
TomGoddardd
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I believe Qantas will replace their A380's with the 777X's but with their ageing A330 fleet they will either get the 787-9 or 10's or the 777X.
I don't see Qantas ordering many more Airbus planes unless something blows the market out. I think after they ordered the 787's they made it obvious. I would like to see some more 747's come into the Australian market.
Chris2304
Chris2304
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A330-300 to be replaced by 787-10
B747 to replaced by B787-9/B777-9X and opportunity for new routes etc
A380 to be replaced by B777-9X
B777-8X opportunity for new non stop routes
moa999
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The A380s will be with us for at least another 10yrs, and will eventually get a new engine and other upgrades, EK will make sure of that
I potentially see a 777X order to replace the 9 refurbed 747s from around 2020
Chris2304
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You mean the 6 B747 ERs replaced by B777-9/8X. Yeah I agree. Sydney to New York first 8X route, AJ seems very interested in that plane for that particular route.
GregXL
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Well moa999 is correct in that there are 6 B747-400ERs and 3 B747-400 that are refurbished and are to be retired well after the B787s start arriving. With QF's stated 250 pax capacity on B787s they aren't a 747 replacement in terms of size, only in terms of range.
Serg
Serg
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IMHO A380 ugliest plane ever. Airbus produced few if any nice looking planes and A380 is definitely “pinnacle” of their design. If QF likes to have 4-engine guzzler (I actually feel more comfortable in one) then 747-8 is the best. Otherwise 777 will be just fine. Generally I feel that it was quite a mistake from QF to acquire so many such big planes.
dimi
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That's probably the most ridiculous argument a Boeing fanboy could ever give.
I bet that you will not find a single airline executive in the world that justifies the airline's aircraft purchasing decisions based on "Hey, Airbuses are ugly, we should not buy them".
I am 100% confident that Qantas will purchase future aircraft based on how well they are going to fit its finanical goals, rather than "I kinna love Boeings more" type of nonsense...
Serg
Serg
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Nothing wrong if you have different opinion, but cannot get why you so sarcastic :-) Tupolev (one of famous Soviet airplane designer) said once “Ugly aircraft will never fly”. Obviously he was wrong seeing what flying today. And BTW I am not Boeing fanboy (hate 767 and glad that QF does not fly them anymore), but indeed fanboy of 747 and I will miss this great airplane in our skies once QF finishes with them. And FWIF 747-8 is on par from economy POV with 380. Nothing supergreat about 380 – just double-decked hangar with wings :-))) And with joystick instead of proper yoke :-)))
And do not be upset – judging how many vote down my post I definitely conclude that there are far more A380 fanboys here :-))
blingwad
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The A380 seems, for most airlines, to be ahead of its time and unnecessary. However demand for aircraft of its size is increasing and we may well find that Qantas has a use for more of them. Joyce was complaining they would fly more to HKG if they could find more slots. Just might be they need A380’s for that route in the future if they need additional capacity.
msport2012
msport2012
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I beleive that QF should acquire the remaning A380's and develop/ upgrade new routes, examples:
1. Daily SYD - DFW
2. Daily BNE - DXB - LHR
Upgrade:
1. SYD - HKG (2xDAILY) I think this would capatilise on on attracting more market share and taking away from CX
2. SYD - HND (DAILY) Strike a deal with JL prehaps
3. SYD - SIN (DAILY)
4. SYD - JNB ( DAILY)
LondonAussie
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Your suggestions seem quite valid. The big problem QF and AJ are facing now is a lack of capacity with little room to move when technical issue arise, and they do now the the utilisation factor has good up on the big birds.
They need the additional A380's - even if just to make their LAX/DFW/SFO/DXB capacity sufficient to handle the tech gripes that keep occuring.