Do you travel elsewhere? I think Qantas has fantastic lounge network with One World and for that sole reason, they are worthwhile, although Singapore Airlines' product is great in business. If you gain over 20k points, may be worthwhile to consider Qantas as you could use those points to upgrade on trips. My gut here will be to swap to QF.
I am PPS with Singapore and Platinum with Qantas and if I had to choose I would go with Qantas. The key points that sway my decision are One World have a better standard of lounges worldwide and I find it easier to earn Qantas points rather than Kisflyer miles
Unless you're in Business, SQ don't look after their Star Gold members well in SIN at all. The Kris Flyer Gold lounge in Singapore is poor. With oneworld Gold you get access to QF, BA and CX lounges at Changi which all have showers (SQ Gold lounge doesn't). Sadly, SQ don't treat their non J and F passengers well at their home hub.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't qualification to any higher tier of frequent flyer membership depends on the amount of flying with the airline? And if your next few months' flights are with Qantas (beyond your control) then you'd clock up for Qantas qualification anyway. Therefore I don't understand your having to consider to ditch one for the other.
If however you have control on whether to fly SQ or QF, then that's a fair question to ask.
On the matter of 18000 points earned from everyday spending, this might help you.
AMEX card will earn you $1 for 1 point. And transferring it to KrisFlyer points, it is 1pt AMEX to 1pt KrisFlyer. Where most other cards require 3 to 4 card points to 1 frequent flyer point.
On top of that, shopping at Coles and Woolworths supermarket will earn you 3 pts for $1.
I also found that the number of points for KrisFlyer redemption flight is lower than QF.
Plus you will get more redemption flights on main airline, and won't get that many flights that are under their partnering budget airline. Since you are travelling mostly to Singapore, these could be some points of consideration.
Unless you're in Business, SQ don't look after their Star Gold members well in SIN at all. The Kris Flyer Gold lounge in Singapore is poor. With oneworld Gold you get access to QF, BA and CX lounges at Changi which all have showers (SQ Gold lounge doesn't). Sadly, SQ don't treat their non J and F passengers well at their home hub.
Slight correction... CX don't have their own lounge at SIN. And QF Gold is OW Sapphire, which gains access to the BA and QF lounges. QF Gold also gains access to the EK lounge at SIN if flying on QF or EK.
Go for QF Gold. Whilst SQ offer a superior product in every class of travel and new fangled conveniences like in flight wifi (which they have had for many years) and big aeroplanes like the 380 and 777 (which QF may have missed the memo on !) the SQ Gold lounge at Changai is a (bad) joke and there's no hope of advancement past Kris Flyer Gold without Business Class / First Class travel. (an issue for we budget conscious business travellers)
Whilst I'm the last person to recommend QF particularly over SQ in terms of product when it comes to loyalty schemes n lounges I think QF is the best choice for you.
I have been an Elite Gold member with Krisflyer for over 2 years now.
Due to some specific travel with Qantas in the next few months I will be close to Gold with Qantas.
I travel around 8 times a year, primarily to Singapore in a mixture of business, premium economy and economy.
I cannot retain Gold with both airlines on these travel numbers.
Should I jump ship and transfer over to Qantas?
The other big factor is between my wife and myself we gain around 18,000 Qantas points each month from everyday spending.
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Is this 18k from credit card spend? If so, why not just change cards to earn the equivalent in krisflyer points plus the card sign up bonus?
I have not found a credit card which still gives Krisflyer points. I have an Amex which is linked to Velocity points which I transfer over at a lesser rate. So My Aussie credit cards all flow into Qantas. Maybe I did not look hard enough!
Go for QF Gold. Whilst SQ offer a superior product in every class of travel and new fangled conveniences like in flight wifi (which they have had for many years) and big aeroplanes like the 380 and 777 (which QF may have missed the memo on !) the SQ Gold lounge at Changai is a (bad) joke and there's no hope of advancement past Kris Flyer Gold without Business Class / First Class travel. (an issue for we budget conscious business travellers)
Whilst I'm the last person to recommend QF particularly over SQ in terms of product when it comes to loyalty schemes n lounges I think QF is the best choice for you.
Thanks for your comments. The opportunity to use EK lounges at Melb and Sin is a big incentive!
Do you travel elsewhere? I think Qantas has fantastic lounge network with One World and for that sole reason, they are worthwhile, although Singapore Airlines' product is great in business. If you gain over 20k points, may be worthwhile to consider Qantas as you could use those points to upgrade on trips. My gut here will be to swap to QF.
The SilverKris lounge in Melb and the Gold lounge at Changi (although I most always get access to the Silverkris lounge there by asking another single traveller to take me in as their guest) are big factors when comparing the chance to use the EK lounge instead at both airports.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Doesn't qualification to any higher tier of frequent flyer membership depends on the amount of flying with the airline? And if your next few months' flights are with Qantas (beyond your control) then you'd clock up for Qantas qualification anyway. Therefore I don't understand your having to consider to ditch one for the other.
If however you have control on whether to fly SQ or QF, then that's a fair question to ask.
On the matter of 18000 points earned from everyday spending, this might help you.
AMEX card will earn you $1 for 1 point. And transferring it to KrisFlyer points, it is 1pt AMEX to 1pt KrisFlyer. Where most other cards require 3 to 4 card points to 1 frequent flyer point.
On top of that, shopping at Coles and Woolworths supermarket will earn you 3 pts for $1.
I also found that the number of points for KrisFlyer redemption flight is lower than QF.
Plus you will get more redemption flights on main airline, and won't get that many flights that are under their partnering budget airline. Since you are travelling mostly to Singapore, these could be some points of consideration.
I have control over which airline I use (mostly) and can only attain QF Gold and retain it on my schedule by ditching Krisflyer. Or I forget swapping to QF and retain Singapore Gold.
I am on QF business return to Tokyo in 5 weeks (A330-300) and will consider which one to swap to after that trip. I recently flew Emirates A380 business to SG and both the lounge and flight were fantastic. I can also use them to continue to fly to SG. Is that partnership continuing? Losing Emirates as an option would be a consideration.
I will look again at my credit cards if I decide to stay with Singapore Airlines.
Go for QF Gold. Whilst SQ offer a superior product in every class of travel and new fangled conveniences like in flight wifi (which they have had for many years) and big aeroplanes like the 380 and 777 (which QF may have missed the memo on !) the SQ Gold lounge at Changai is a (bad) joke and there's no hope of advancement past Kris Flyer Gold without Business Class / First Class travel. (an issue for we budget conscious business travellers)
Whilst I'm the last person to recommend QF particularly over SQ in terms of product when it comes to loyalty schemes n lounges I think QF is the best choice for you.
Thanks, I am swaying that way right now. I also believe I can retain Gold with QF on 1 less return flight than using SG. Using QF or Emirates lounges is a big factor for me. Who does not like the Moet offered by EK in their lounge?!
Richard W
Richard W
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 12 Apr 2017
Total posts 88
I have been an Elite Gold member with Krisflyer for over 2 years now.
silvyvc
silvyvc
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 19 Jun 2017
Total posts 62
Do you travel elsewhere? I think Qantas has fantastic lounge network with One World and for that sole reason, they are worthwhile, although Singapore Airlines' product is great in business. If you gain over 20k points, may be worthwhile to consider Qantas as you could use those points to upgrade on trips. My gut here will be to swap to QF.
JTG
JTG
Singapore Airlines - The PPS Club
Member since 11 Jul 2014
Total posts 31
I am PPS with Singapore and Platinum with Qantas and if I had to choose I would go with Qantas. The key points that sway my decision are One World have a better standard of lounges worldwide and I find it easier to earn Qantas points rather than Kisflyer miles
elchriss0
elchriss0
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 13 Jan 2015
Total posts 80
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Doubleplatinum Banned
Doubleplatinum Banned
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer Platinum
Member since 07 Feb 2013
Total posts 431
Krisflyer for sure, a flight on SQ is a dream compared to most QF flights loaded with cashed up bogans
alex_upgrade77
alex_upgrade77
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 08 Sep 2012
Total posts 47
Unless you're in Business, SQ don't look after their Star Gold members well in SIN at all. The Kris Flyer Gold lounge in Singapore is poor. With oneworld Gold you get access to QF, BA and CX lounges at Changi which all have showers (SQ Gold lounge doesn't). Sadly, SQ don't treat their non J and F passengers well at their home hub.
KinHo
KinHo
Member since 03 Sep 2017
Total posts 26
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Doesn't qualification to any higher tier of frequent flyer membership depends on the amount of flying with the airline? And if your next few months' flights are with Qantas (beyond your control) then you'd clock up for Qantas qualification anyway. Therefore I don't understand your having to consider to ditch one for the other.
nix584
nix584
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 10 Jan 2012
Total posts 108
Slight correction... CX don't have their own lounge at SIN. And QF Gold is OW Sapphire, which gains access to the BA and QF lounges. QF Gold also gains access to the EK lounge at SIN if flying on QF or EK.
Booster
Booster
United Airlines - Mileage Plus
Member since 17 Feb 2016
Total posts 29
Go for QF Gold. Whilst SQ offer a superior product in every class of travel and new fangled conveniences like in flight wifi (which they have had for many years) and big aeroplanes like the 380 and 777 (which QF may have missed the memo on !) the SQ Gold lounge at Changai is a (bad) joke and there's no hope of advancement past Kris Flyer Gold without Business Class / First Class travel. (an issue for we budget conscious business travellers)
Richard W
Richard W
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 12 Apr 2017
Total posts 88
I have not found a credit card which still gives Krisflyer points. I have an Amex which is linked to Velocity points which I transfer over at a lesser rate. So My Aussie credit cards all flow into Qantas. Maybe I did not look hard enough!
Richard W
Richard W
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 12 Apr 2017
Total posts 88
Thanks for your comments. The opportunity to use EK lounges at Melb and Sin is a big incentive!
Richard W
Richard W
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 12 Apr 2017
Total posts 88
The SilverKris lounge in Melb and the Gold lounge at Changi (although I most always get access to the Silverkris lounge there by asking another single traveller to take me in as their guest) are big factors when comparing the chance to use the EK lounge instead at both airports.
Richard W
Richard W
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 12 Apr 2017
Total posts 88
Doesn't qualification to any higher tier of frequent flyer membership depends on the amount of flying with the airline? And if your next few months' flights are with Qantas (beyond your control) then you'd clock up for Qantas qualification anyway. Therefore I don't understand your having to consider to ditch one for the other.
I have control over which airline I use (mostly) and can only attain QF Gold and retain it on my schedule by ditching Krisflyer. Or I forget swapping to QF and retain Singapore Gold.
Richard W
Richard W
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 12 Apr 2017
Total posts 88
Haha, nice comment
Richard W
Richard W
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 12 Apr 2017
Total posts 88
Thanks, I am swaying that way right now. I also believe I can retain Gold with QF on 1 less return flight than using SG. Using QF or Emirates lounges is a big factor for me. Who does not like the Moet offered by EK in their lounge?!