Krisflyer on Virgin Australia

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cliffordw80

Member since 27 Jan 2017

Total posts 5

Are there any disadvantages when using the a Krisflyer number on VA flights? Would rather accrue SQ points than Velocity

Also is there a status match program for Krisflyer? Currently I hold a platinum for QF

henrus

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 23 Oct 2013

Total posts 768

One big disadvantage - you can't earn status.

Similar to Qantas, Krisflyer is made up on two components; Miles (similar to QF points) and Elite Miles (similar to QF Status credits).

On Virgin Australia flights (with a VA flight number) you only earn miles so in the long run it's impossible to earn any form of status on Krisflyer if you're just flying Virgin Australia. The Elite Miles are only earned on Singapore Airlines and SilkAir marketed flights or Star Alliance operated and marketed flights.

How much Virgin, Star Alliance and Singapore airlines flying are you doing? Chances are if it's mainly Virgin flights then you'd be best using a Velocity number to earn.

If you're after Singapore airlines points for an award flight then you'll have to toss up if it's worth it to not earn status or gain the points. It's worth noting you can transfer Velocity points to Krisflyer at a rate of 1.55:1.

It's also worth noting that Velocity domestic and trans Tasman earning is based on dollar spend. For example a Elevate ticket from Melbourne to Sydney might be $150 (without taxes) and would earn 750 velocity points. On Krisflyer that same ticket would only earn 220 miles (regardless of price paid) - quite a loss when you could have transferred those 750 points to 483 miles using a Velocity to Krisflyer transfer.

Andrew Barkery

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 21 Mar 2011

Total posts 423

Don't do it.
I did it, and guess what, SQ KF declined/denied the points and SC, even though no matter how miniscule it is.
I did it, ADL - MEL, VA booking and VA metal, but put in my SQ KF # into the VA booking, thought all well, and good, did the flight, points and SC didn't appear.
I put in a retro claim, but got declined/denied, think it was SQ KF that declined/denied it.
I didn't want to push the point.
My domestic booking wasn't a code share, that could be the deciding factor, ie, if you flew SQ ADL - SIN and return, and put in your SQ KF # into the VA booking to use points + pay, it might work that you get SQ KF # and SC, flying an SQ aircraft, but VA flight number.
From now on, I am going the keep VA and KF # as separate, and then either move one to the other in that 5,000 block.
Yes, we lose 0.45% of the value, but at the least we are guaranteed to get the points.
If you do want to try, go ahead and see what happens.
Put into your booking the SQ KF# and see.
Others have said to chase it, but to my way of thinking, no use, all for 196 or so KF points.
Now, I am flying MEL - WLG in J, later this year, have put my SQ KF # into the booking, made on the SQ website, once my points are there, I might move the points to VFF, or move VFF points to SQ KF, and utilise points for part cost of next SQ fare.
Sorry for the waffly.

hakkinen5

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 20 Aug 2014

Total posts 125

I tried this also, on a VA flight which was a SQ codeshare. I received 0 points. Reason: fare class not eligible.

Luckily for me, even though in my SQ # was on the booking I still got VA points and SC's.

cliffordw80

Member since 27 Jan 2017

Total posts 5

thanks all

Think I will stick with velocity, just changed jobs and they have an agreement with VA so just wanted to know my options

would be great if they joined one of the alliances

cliffordw80

Member since 27 Jan 2017

Total posts 5

im guessing this applies to all their partners? Delta?

just curious in wake of QFF news to come out on Thur

thibault

Air France - Flying Blue

Member since 07 Nov 2018

Total posts 3

I know that EY Guest is not very popular here but you can earn Tier Miles and Guest Miles on VA's flights.
As I am gold, I earn 100% of the distance travelled (Tier Miles) and 100% of Guest Miles on Getaway fares.

Very easy to get status with EY and so with Virgin Australia.
In my experience, they credit your VA points in less than a week.
You also have domestic lounge access and almost all the Velocity Gold perks.

I flew BNE-HKG last week with VA and had a great amazing experience.
I earn more Tier miles if I fly BNE-HKG via MEL and then HKG-CDG via AUH instead of BNE-AUH-CDG.
I always prefer to fly via Mel as I earn more Tier Miles.

Chris Chamberlin

Member since 24 Apr 2012

Total posts 1,055

Thing with Etihad is that they're in the habit of making changes without notice (e.g. they introduced new upgrade rates with immediate effect, which were higher than before), so it's a program that has its advantages, but I try not to keep miles sitting there. Lounge access with most partner airlines is also generally limited to partner-operated lounges (so no lounge when flying VA internationally, I believe).

thibault

Air France - Flying Blue

Member since 07 Nov 2018

Total posts 3

Thing with Etihad is that they're in the habit of making changes without notice (e.g. they introduced new upgrade rates with immediate effect, which were higher than before), so it's a program that has its advantages, but I try not to keep miles sitting there. Lounge access with most partner airlines is also generally limited to partner-operated lounges (so no lounge when flying VA internationally, I believe).

Yes that's the massive issue with this program.
But status is easy to earn.
I would have liked if EY gives us VA international lounge access but it is apparently not happening.

I need to build again my loyalty with an other airline but EY is ok for now.
I only fly Australia - Europe and despite the catering issue they still offer a great product and I always have great seats in Y.
Skyteam is useless in Australia so my AF card is not used as much as it should be ;)

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