I'm travelling to the UK for work and am taking my wife and two year old son with me. We're travelling in Business Class on Singapore Airlines A350.
My question is a little niche - has anyone had experience with their youngster sleeping in Business Class? We have his own seat for him but he's prone to rolling around a lot when he sleeps so we don't really want him rolling off the chair and onto the floor!
Has anyone had experience with their kids and have any tips or tricks? Cheers.
My daughter is a little older but I always ensure she sleeps with her seat belt on. I work in aviation and would never sleep without one due to the risk of clear air turbulence. I imagine Singapore Airlines would also want your child restrained while sleeping.
I recently did a trip with my 2 y.o. on Qantas and Cathay to Taipei via Hong Kong and the regular seat belt over the top of the sheet covers was the trick. Even with the tossing and turning it did the job. As a hint, also take with you some new things, such as a sheet of stickers, a now toy and some new books to introduce to your little one and keep them entertained when they're awake. Our little one go a new book on each flight and loved the stickers.
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
I recently did a trip with my 2 y.o. on Qantas and Cathay to Taipei via Hong Kong and the regular seat belt over the top of the sheet covers was the trick. Even with the tossing and turning it did the job. As a hint, also take with you some new things, such as a sheet of stickers, a now toy and some new books to introduce to your little one and keep them entertained when they're awake. Our little one go a new book on each flight and loved the stickers.
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
Understand where you're coming from, but they have just as much right to be there as anyone else.
I travel a lot with my small child in F and J cabins. As others have suggested - belt over the covers on a J bed. Take extra sets of clothes for you and them plus all the nappies you will need. I also travel with a roll of tape to try and block out all the lights on buttons over the J bed (especially QF's 747s) - they're very distracting when you're trying to get them to sleep!!
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
Understand where you're coming from, but they have just as much right to be there as anyone else.
Absolutely they do - always just a matter of time before someone starts going down the path of 'should children be in business class', whenever something like this is posted. They do and frankly my daughter at 2 has behaved a hell of a lot better than some adults I've seen in the past in business or first class.
Some people don't seem to appreciate that, in general, air travel is public transport!! You pay your money and you have as much right to be there as anyone else.
Joe - your lucky day though, David had a great article that should help with your flying sensitivities.
I have always found that the flight attendants are in raptures when a young child boards business class. No endless requests to fetch a glass of wine/scotch/ or to make up the bed; the young ones tend to treat flight attendants with awe (rather than the hired help); and they sleep for a lot of the flight. On top of that we always used to order the child meal which comes up from economy. Easy! The stereotype of the crying bratty child is one I'm yet to witness on a long haul flight in business class. And they save the airline a fortune in food and drink, both in the air and in the lounge, so why not welcome them with open arms?
My two (3 and 7) regularly fly business class and never had any problems with sleeping or behaviour (theirs, not mine)! I usually stuff a few pillows down the side if I can to try to buffer the aisle. Mine have gone off kids' meals, but more a function of age + keeps the older one entertained with all the service etc.
Particularly on long-haul, I find the TV and junk food seems to have theraputic and sleep-inducing properties!
I've never had any problems with other passengers. I think most people have noise cancelling headphones now days so the risk is somewhat reduced. One suggestion I would have is def. take advantage of business class boarding and/or early boarding as the time to settle in etc. always seems to take way more time.
And there is that old saying 'if a child screams on a plane and it's not mine... do I really hear it''? most def. not.
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
The audacity to post something like this is beyond belief!!
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
Understand where you're coming from, but they have just as much right to be there as anyone else.
I'm shiver more when I see the bunch of guys heading to/from a weekend away, or sit next to someone with questionable hygiene. My QF flight from AKL to BNE last week was one of these.
I've had a few flights with kids being absolutely annoying but in most cases their parents did nothing to stop them. Where the parents are doing their best, I say all the power to them.
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
Understand where you're coming from, but they have just as much right to be there as anyone else.
Absolutely they do - always just a matter of time before someone starts going down the path of 'should children be in business class', whenever something like this is posted. They do and frankly my daughter at 2 has behaved a hell of a lot better than some adults I've seen in the past in business or first class.
Some people don't seem to appreciate that, in general, air travel is public transport!! You pay your money and you have as much right to be there as anyone else.
Joe - your lucky day though, David had a great article that should help with your flying sensitivities.
Do they actually pay though? In most cases the noisy and disruptive children on flights are babies who are under 2 (like the one I had in first a couple of weeks ago who cried for 6 hours straight) and they fly at a fraction of the cost of an adult fare: see, eg, https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/help-travelling-with-infants/global/en
If payment for the seat is a pre-requisite to having some sort of right to make noise let's start by making the parents of newborns pay full freight to have their kids on board stuffing up everyone else's sleep.
And if the argument is that “they've got as much of a right to be there as anyone else†it should follow that we expect the same standards of behaviour from children (and more importantly the parents controlling them) that we do from everyone else. If we wouldn't tolerate an adult screaming for several hours or kicking seats we shouldn't tolerate it from a child (or more importantly their parents).
dylanmalloch
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Hi all,
I'm travelling to the UK for work and am taking my wife and two year old son with me. We're travelling in Business Class on Singapore Airlines A350.
My question is a little niche - has anyone had experience with their youngster sleeping in Business Class? We have his own seat for him but he's prone to rolling around a lot when he sleeps so we don't really want him rolling off the chair and onto the floor!
Has anyone had experience with their kids and have any tips or tricks? Cheers.
Winstonatc
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My daughter is a little older but I always ensure she sleeps with her seat belt on. I work in aviation and would never sleep without one due to the risk of clear air turbulence. I imagine Singapore Airlines would also want your child restrained while sleeping.
StuParr
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The belt that is there when in bed mode should be sufficient, just don't make it too tight so your child can roll. That worked for us.
dylanmalloch
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Thanks both - good feedback.
fxdxdy
fxdxdy
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I recently did a trip with my 2 y.o. on Qantas and Cathay to Taipei via Hong Kong and the regular seat belt over the top of the sheet covers was the trick. Even with the tossing and turning it did the job.
As a hint, also take with you some new things, such as a sheet of stickers, a now toy and some new books to introduce to your little one and keep them entertained when they're awake. Our little one go a new book on each flight and loved the stickers.
Joe
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Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
dylanmalloch
dylanmalloch
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Originally Posted by fxdxdy
I recently did a trip with my 2 y.o. on Qantas and Cathay to Taipei via Hong Kong and the regular seat belt over the top of the sheet covers was the trick. Even with the tossing and turning it did the job.
As a hint, also take with you some new things, such as a sheet of stickers, a now toy and some new books to introduce to your little one and keep them entertained when they're awake. Our little one go a new book on each flight and loved the stickers.
Great advice. Thanks mate.
dylanmalloch
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Originally Posted by Joe
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
Understand where you're coming from, but they have just as much right to be there as anyone else.
artemis
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I travel a lot with my small child in F and J cabins. As others have suggested - belt over the covers on a J bed. Take extra sets of clothes for you and them plus all the nappies you will need. I also travel with a roll of tape to try and block out all the lights on buttons over the J bed (especially QF's 747s) - they're very distracting when you're trying to get them to sleep!!
Ourmanin
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Originally Posted by dylanmalloch
Originally Posted by Joe
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
Absolutely they do - always just a matter of time before someone starts going down the path of 'should children be in business class', whenever something like this is posted. They do and frankly my daughter at 2 has behaved a hell of a lot better than some adults I've seen in the past in business or first class.
Some people don't seem to appreciate that, in general, air travel is public transport!! You pay your money and you have as much right to be there as anyone else.
Joe - your lucky day though, David had a great article that should help with your flying sensitivities.
https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/this-boeing-787-9-private-jet-can-fly-non-stop-from-sydney-to-london
Winstonatc
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I have always found that the flight attendants are in raptures when a young child boards business class. No endless requests to fetch a glass of wine/scotch/ or to make up the bed; the young ones tend to treat flight attendants with awe (rather than the hired help); and they sleep for a lot of the flight. On top of that we always used to order the child meal which comes up from economy. Easy! The stereotype of the crying bratty child is one I'm yet to witness on a long haul flight in business class. And they save the airline a fortune in food and drink, both in the air and in the lounge, so why not welcome them with open arms?
oneill
oneill
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My two (3 and 7) regularly fly business class and never had any problems with sleeping or behaviour (theirs, not mine)! I usually stuff a few pillows down the side if I can to try to buffer the aisle. Mine have gone off kids' meals, but more a function of age + keeps the older one entertained with all the service etc.
Particularly on long-haul, I find the TV and junk food seems to have theraputic and sleep-inducing properties!
I've never had any problems with other passengers. I think most people have noise cancelling headphones now days so the risk is somewhat reduced. One suggestion I would have is def. take advantage of business class boarding and/or early boarding as the time to settle in etc. always seems to take way more time.
And there is that old saying 'if a child screams on a plane and it's not mine... do I really hear it''? most def. not.
RichRing
RichRing
Member since 29 Jul 2019
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Originally Posted by Joe
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
The audacity to post something like this is beyond belief!!
Jazzop
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Originally Posted by dylanmalloch
Originally Posted by Joe
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
I'm shiver more when I see the bunch of guys heading to/from a weekend away, or sit next to someone with questionable hygiene. My QF flight from AKL to BNE last week was one of these.
I've had a few flights with kids being absolutely annoying but in most cases their parents did nothing to stop them. Where the parents are doing their best, I say all the power to them.
greg959
greg959
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Originally Posted by Ourmanin
Originally Posted by dylanmalloch
Originally Posted by Joe
Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.
Some people don't seem to appreciate that, in general, air travel is public transport!! You pay your money and you have as much right to be there as anyone else.
Joe - your lucky day though, David had a great article that should help with your flying sensitivities.
https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/this-boeing-787-9-private-jet-can-fly-non-stop-from-sydney-to-london
Do they actually pay though? In most cases the noisy and disruptive children on flights are babies who are under 2 (like the one I had in first a couple of weeks ago who cried for 6 hours straight) and they fly at a fraction of the cost of an adult fare: see, eg, https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/help-travelling-with-infants/global/en
If payment for the seat is a pre-requisite to having some sort of right to make noise let's start by making the parents of newborns pay full freight to have their kids on board stuffing up everyone else's sleep.
And if the argument is that “they've got as much of a right to be there as anyone else†it should follow that we expect the same standards of behaviour from children (and more importantly the parents controlling them) that we do from everyone else. If we wouldn't tolerate an adult screaming for several hours or kicking seats we shouldn't tolerate it from a child (or more importantly their parents).