Business class sleeping for a 2 year old?

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coastflyer1 Banned

coastflyer1 Banned

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Originally Posted by Jazzop

Originally Posted by dylanmalloch

Originally Posted by Joe

Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.

Understand where you're coming from, but they have just as much right to be there as anyone else.

I'm shiver more when I see the bunch of guys heading to/from a weekend away, or sit next to someone with questionable hygiene. My QF flight from AKL to BNE last week was one of these.

I've had a few flights with kids being absolutely annoying but in most cases their parents did nothing to stop them. Where the parents are doing their best, I say all the power to them.


Spot on, when parents are making an effort to actually be a parent and shut the kid up there is nothing to realistically get angry about. The bogan parents who sit there on their phones / tv who are happy to their kids to annoy the hell out of everybody else and absolve themselves of any real responsibility are the kind of people who never should breed. Always funny to see everyone professing how perfectly behaved their kids are, in my experience its always the ones professing to be so well behaved that are the biggest ratbags.

coastflyer1 Banned

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Originally Posted by greg959

Originally Posted by Ourmanin

Originally Posted by dylanmalloch

Originally Posted by Joe

Ah that shiver you get watching under 10's at the boarding gate or in the lounge praying they won't be on your flight in business or first......shudder.

Understand where you're coming from, but they have just as much right to be there as anyone else.

Absolutely they do - always just a matter of time before someone starts going down the path of 'should children be in business class', whenever something like this is posted. They do and frankly my daughter at 2 has behaved a hell of a lot better than some adults I've seen in the past in business or first class.

Some people don't seem to appreciate that, in general, air travel is public transport!! You pay your money and you have as much right to be there as anyone else.


Joe - your lucky day though, David had a great article that should help with your flying sensitivities.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/this-boeing-787-9-private-jet-can-fly-non-stop-from-sydney-to-london



Do they actually pay though? In most cases the noisy and disruptive children on flights are babies who are under 2 (like the one I had in first a couple of weeks ago who cried for 6 hours straight) and they fly at a fraction of the cost of an adult fare: see, eg, https://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/help-travelling-with-infants/global/en

If payment for the seat is a pre-requisite to having some sort of right to make noise let's start by making the parents of newborns pay full freight to have their kids on board stuffing up everyone else's sleep.

And if the argument is that “they've got as much of a right to be there as anyone else” it should follow that we expect the same standards of behaviour from children (and more importantly the parents controlling them) that we do from everyone else. If we wouldn't tolerate an adult screaming for several hours or kicking seats we shouldn't tolerate it from a child (or more importantly their parents).

Well said, always some people professing how perfectly behaved their kids are the ones with the biggest ratbags!

Sr Batrill

Member since 04 Dec 2017

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I think the silent majority agree with Joe! Think I do too when I've paid to be in J or F for the peace space and quiet.

Rxm

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Member since 14 Jan 2017

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As suggested use the seatbelt and some pillows to reduce the risk.

Also for the enlightenment of some. Over 2's do indeed pay for their seats, are not little adults and therefore don't behave like adults. Finally parents cannot fully control all behaviours eg crying so please no more comments about failure of parental supervision. This is an issue in the minority of cases.

coastflyer1 Banned

coastflyer1 Banned

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Originally Posted by Rxm

As suggested use the seatbelt and some pillows to reduce the risk.

Also for the enlightenment of some. Over 2's do indeed pay for their seats, are not little adults and therefore don't behave like adults. Finally parents cannot fully control all behaviours eg crying so please no more comments about failure of parental supervision. This is an issue in the minority of cases.

What a cop out, how then do disciplined families and kids have no problem keeping quiet? Cop out pushed by lazy/undisciplined parents.

Ian_from_HKG

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Psychology is important too. From the point where our children could understand, we always made it very clear to them (starting a week or two before the flight) that we were going on a special trip, they had to be on their best behaviour, explained that they had to be sitting upright in their seat during take-off and landing with no exceptions, and that they always had to obey the crew with no exceptions.

We explained that they may be tired and grumpy but they still had to follow the rules because they weren't just our rules, they were the captain's rules, and that if our children broke those rules then they were in big trouble and there was nothing we could do about it because we had to follow the same rules too. Then, when we were on board, it was easy to say "You have to do X, captain's rules, but as soon as Y happens then you can do Z", and to say "Look, I'm doing it too - that's the rule".

As others have mentioned, having a variety of entertainment is important too. IFE only goes so far, and isn't always available, so story-books, picture-books, (quiet) toys, colouring books, stickers - anything to cause distraction AND variety. Good luck!!

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