Having just spent another uncomfortable night on a plane that was just too warm and as usual no individual air jets as the powers that be have decided that the higher the price of

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Mont80

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards Platinum

Member since 01 Jul 2013

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Having just spent another uncomfortable night on a plane that was just too warm and as usual no individual air jets as the powers that be have decided that the higher the price of your ticket the less likely you are to want access to independent air. I know of only a few airlines that still have them at the pointy end. Virgin Atlantic in Upper Class, Qantas in First. Anybody know of anymore and why more airlines don't still install them.

Serg

QFF

Member since 12 Apr 2013

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I guess answer is obvious - money.

euroboy1977

Member since 13 Aug 2013

Total posts 92

So far I have been lucky and never really experienced unusually warm flights, except when a window side passenger leaves the window wide open when blinding sunlight is pouring through. I usually wear comfy shorts and a t-shirt, so that helps. Though I never need to, I figure its better to risk being cold and warm up with a blanket than be overdressed and feel stuffy and uncomfortable. I never trust the plane to be the right temp for me and bring additional change of clothes so I'm prepared for any extreme.

wanderlust

Virgin Australia Platinum

Member since 09 Sep 2014

Total posts 60

Hello,

I agree 100%! I have had such bad luck on several long-haul flights on many carriers. I have found that Asian & Middle Eastern carriers have higher cabin temperatures than European & North American airlines. I am from the United States and I am used to frigid cold cabins on American Airlines and United etc. I have had horrible experiences on Etihad in particular for they seem to always have hot cabins. I know this is not just me because i have seen several reviews even on here stating a hot cabin on Etihad flights. I have only flown in Etihad First and always need to ask the Cabin Manager to turn down the temperature. The response is always that people prefer higher temperatures as it allows for better sleep etc. However, personally I like cold cabins so that my comfortable pyjamas and blankets provide all the warmth I need. I have had hot experiences on Singapore Airlines, Qatar Airways, Malaysia Airlines, and Thai Airways. Eithad takes the cake for the hottest though!

I have noticed personal air jets in the first class cabins on Etihad and Emirates. I have also noticed air jets on Virgin Australia Business Class on their 777s. Personally, I dont find that they do much use other than act like a tiny fan pushing the warm air onto you!

I know many people prefer warmer cabins and complain when its so cold. And then there are many people that complain its so hot and wish it was cold. Its hard to win here. My personal take is that its much easier to make yourself warmer with the use of blankets and pjs than to it is to make yourself cooler. With that said, if you are traveling in economy, it may be better to have a warmer cabin as some airlines provide thin blankets that dont warm you up much.

What should be provided is a personal and controllable COLD AIR vent at every premium seat on 4+ star airlines. Now that would be great for all passengers. Wishful thinking indeed!

MissBasset

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 31 Aug 2012

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I think it's pretty much agreed that cooler temperatures are much more conducive to sleep rather than the other way around. As the crew prefer a cabin of sleeping passengers rather than pesky awake ones wanting things, you think they would encourage it.

wanderlust

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Member since 09 Sep 2014

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And I always notice a clear increase in cabin temperature after meal service and dimming of lights. In particular, its hard for me to look forward to flying on Etihad anymore regardless of fare class because I know I will be getting a hot cabin. I hope norms will change if passengers speak up about it onboard. I enjoy flying on Virgin Australia to Abu Dhabi instead because the cabins always stay cool during my experiences.

MissBasset

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 31 Aug 2012

Total posts 69

Could be a perceived  cultural thing. Etihad's home base is a hot one. Maybe they think everyone likes it hot!  Let's correct that misconception!

euroboy1977

Member since 13 Aug 2013

Total posts 92

I've flown Oman Air twice, as has a work colleague and although Oman Airs home base is located in the same area geographically as Etihad, the cabin temperature was perfect. So I am doubtful it is because of that :)

msndelevium

Member since 31 Jan 2013

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Japan Airlines has one of the warmest cabin I've experienced. I experienced this on an overnight frlight from Singapore to Tokyo. There was a significant temperature change once the meal service is completed and the lights dimmed. Warming up the cabin was only for overnight flights as the cabin temperature felt cool on the day return flight and day doemstic flights.

blance94

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 05 Nov 2013

Total posts 10

You can always ask the crew to ask the flight deck to turn the temperature down in the cabin :) I know it's a bit of a pain, but usually if you are thinking it's too warm in the cabin, most passengers are too and the crew are too flat out to realise the temperature issue.

moa999

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 02 Jul 2011

Total posts 835

Qantas normally has them throughout the aircraft,not just in First.

I agree it can be good to have a personal control

Merc25

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 29 Jun 2013

Total posts 317

I generally ask for the temperature to be turned down and on some flights they have done so ,the temperature is normaly increased at turn down time to help people go to sleep .different airlines have varying standards for air temperature for night flights.

euroboy1977

Member since 13 Aug 2013

Total posts 92

Seems strange that there is so much variation in temperature between flights and airlines. A standard can always be maintained of say between 18-21 degrees. During winter our family keeps the heating within that pleasant temperature range at home, so I can't see why an Airplane with technology far superior than my humble home cannot get this right. I managed a health club for years, and we never changed the temperature on request. You cannot keep everyone happy. Keeping it within that neutral range should be the aim. 

Trip88

Malaysia Airlines - Enrich

Member since 12 Oct 2012

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The cabin crew, not the cockpit, manages cabin temperature. Yes, they do routinely increase temperatures after a meal service and at night. Its just the cabin crew's way of making everyone drowsy and sleepy and it works.

The temperature is controlled by zones and cabins (in most modern aircraft). If you are feeling very hot, ask the crew to show you the current temperature on their display panels, which are near most of the emergency exits. When I have done so, many have sheepishly decreased the temperature themselves, especially when the cabin has exceeded the airline's own guidelines (most have a max of 25 degrees).

Even if the temperature is lower than those, by asking crew in front of their screens, you can actually make sure that it is adjusted back to something comfortable. Have of course always asked nicely and so far no crew has ever refused. When I made my requests away from the screens, crew politely agreed, but often there was no subsequent change in temperature.

 

wanderlust

Virgin Australia Platinum

Member since 09 Sep 2014

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Way to state things perfectly Trip88! This is so true! I have had to go up to the actual screen near the exit door and ask nicely for the temperature to be decreased. This was after I asked the crew twice to turn down temperature from my seat on a flight in first class. I didn't notice a change at all even though they said they changed it for me. I learned my lesson the hard way on Etihad and I sat uncomfortably in a suite I really looked forward to. It was a hot 14 hour flight. Its very true though that if you do make an appearance at the galley and make it a point (nicely of course) to have something remedied, the cabin manager will oblige. 

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