VA Business product

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StuParr

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VA Cabin crew said 8 days to new business class product, “not they are counting”. So whoever is flying on the 25th, looking forward to seeing what they are offering.

sid

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What do you mean by “not they are counting"?

StuParr

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The cabin crew member said “ new product will be available in 8 days on the 25th of March, not that we are counting” in other words they are counting down the days to the new product as it appears to not have been a fun time for them with people's reactions. When he introduced himself it started with an apology for what they have. I was very impressed by the way he dealt with it. But you could tell they can't wait for decent product on the aircraft.

Last editedby StuParr at Mar 17, 2021, 10:44 AM.

David

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Interesting, thanks for sharing Stu – as we're reported this morning, Virgin is holding a media launch for its new business class meals on the evening of March 25 (see https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-new-business-class-menu-launch), although the airline hasn't officially revealed when those meals will be onboard.

readosunnycoast

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BNE-ADL-PER-BNE (J) a couple of weeks ago. Absolutely dreadful. 6am start at PER with almost nothing available in the lounge then disgraceful offering onboard. Even the "snacks" were cheap and not very cheerful. Anything will be an improvement.

Rod H

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One would hope that VA invite a few Business Class Gold or Platinum travellers along to show off their new product.

Sure they must invite Travel Agents, Travel Writers and others like ET to see what’s on offer.

It’s all fine and good to show it to the afore mentioned but it would be wise to show it to those who actually pay to use it.

Maybe they will invite some I guess time will tell.

Another announcement but still no definite date of start of this new service.

VA seem to love playing the waiting game.

I just hope it’s well worth this long wait.

StuParr

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From what the crew have been told the staff is the 25th of March which matches up with the day of the dinner that David is going to.

Ordinarily I wouldn’t be expected to be invited to an event like that for media. I’m happy to read about it on ET and then sample the new product when I next am required to travel.

XWu

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I am more amused by the fact that Mr Flynn decided not to allow comments to be posted directly on the article he mentioned above.

Probably due to the fact that the only new newsworthy part of the article is the fact that a media launch for J class meal menu is due on March 25 and ET has been invited to come along. The rest of the article is simply recycled info and guesswork from previous article.

Rod H

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XWu. I have been thinking the same as you about no comments .

I guess David doesn't think the article is worth seeking any comments about.

It will be interesting to hear what David has to say but I still cannot fathom why it has taken VA so long and all of this secrecy.

Must be a rather fantastic announcement to be presented!!

For VA's sake I do hope it's very good for a revamped J Class Passenger service.

Last editedby Rod H at Mar 20, 2021, 04:04 PM.

StuParr

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Rod,


I would assume that VA's delay in launching the full product has been due to the various parts of the previous business case that had sub-optimal capital requirements or contracts that needed to be wound back and RE-structured. Things are always a lot more complex internally than outsiders would see.

But yes, here's hoping the new J product is competitive within the niche they are looking to exploit.

Last editedby StuParr at Mar 20, 2021, 06:04 PM.

XWu

Member since 09 May 2020

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Originally Posted by StuParr

Rod,


I would assume that VA's delay in launching the full product has been due to the various parts of the previous business case that had sub-optimal capital requirements or contracts that needed to be wound back and RE-structured. Things are always a lot more complex internally than outsiders would see.

But yes, here's hoping the new J product is competitive within the niche they are looking to exploit.

Last editedby StuParr at Mar 20, 2021, 06:04 PM.

As I wrote in another thread, if the VA J Class product is still being decided based on contracts and financial arrangements, then the products are determined by accountants not executives, rather than the marketing/executives determining what is an attractive product and then the accountants determine the fare prices based on the cost-profit margin.

Someone once commented that if the accountants were totally in charge of a business travel budget there will be no business executives flying j class particularly in domestic market, since it simply doesn't make any economic sense to pay 4-6 times the economy fares for 1-2 hours of pampering

Last editedby XWu at Mar 21, 2021, 06:12 PM.

David

Member since 24 Oct 2010

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Originally Posted by Rod H

One would hope that VA invite a few Business Class Gold or Platinum travellers along to show off their new product.

Sure they must invite Travel Agents, Travel Writers and others like ET to see what’s on offer.

It’s all fine and good to show it to the afore mentioned but it would be wise to show it to those who actually pay to use it.

Maybe they will invite some I guess time will tell.

Another announcement but still no definite date of start of this new service.

VA seem to love playing the waiting game.

I just hope it’s well worth this long wait.

I agree with you, Rod, and I'd certainly like to think that Virgin has invited a number of its Brisbane-based Gold and Velocity members who do a lot of flying in business class.

David

Member since 24 Oct 2010

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Originally Posted by XWu

I am more amused by the fact that Mr Flynn decided not to allow comments to be posted directly on the article he mentioned above.

Probably due to the fact that the only new newsworthy part of the article is the fact that a media launch for J class meal menu is due on March 25 and ET has been invited to come along. The rest of the article is simply recycled info and guesswork from previous article.

The article at https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-new-business-class-menu-launch is wide open for comments, perhaps you're thinking of another article?

Rod H

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David.

I also was wondering because when the story first appeared there were quite a few days when there wasn’t any way to comment on the article.

It was only a couple of days ago that option became available so I think that’s what XWu is referring to.

XWu

Member since 09 May 2020

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To be clear, the article “Virgin's new business class menu launches March 25” which is what https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-new-business-class-menu-launch links to was actually published on 18 March 2021 as Mr Flynn's own post have stated

(Thursday, 18 Mar 2021, 12:49:03 pm

Interesting, thanks for sharing Stu – as we're reported this morning, Virgin is holding a media launch for its new business class meals on the evening of March 25 (see https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-new-business-class-menu-launch), although the airline hasn't officially revealed when those meals will be )

No comments was possible then.

Somehow this got reposted, possibly after some re-editing although I can't see what major changes there were, on the 22 March when it then allows comments to be posted.

Hence my comments as stated on 20 March 2021, was correct at the time of writing.

Take it anyway you want Mr Flynn as you own this website service but I offer this as a comment: this kind of changes and editing without acknowledgement that changes were made since the original posting is more common in ET content than most people realise, and frankly makes some commentators look stupid (as if they don't know how to read or comprehend) especially when they wrote posts in the absence of certain info which was later inserted into the updated article. This kind of stealth changes frankly drives me crazy as I sometimes search for articles with certain infos which I was sure I had read in ET but oh no, changes were made and I thought I must be losing my memory or fake memory until I found these actual changes in internet archives.

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