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Looks like Jet Airways has finally gone bust....

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NickCorr

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Looks like they have finally lost their funding and all planes are grounded... Were there any Qantas codeshares still being offered? When I flew to India the other week they were looking shaky and so I flew via HK with QF and CX..

andyf

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Does this have any bearing on Etihad?

oz_soarer

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Even if a miracle happens and an investor is found, they will be flying with a much smaller fleet. This from Reuters:

"India’s aviation regulator said on its website on Wednesday that lessors had applied to de-register another four Boeing Co 737 planes. Overall, Jet’s lessors have, so far, sought to deregister and repossess at least 48 planes operated by Jet. Once deregistered, lessors are free to reclaim a plane and lease it to another airline."


kimshep

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Looks like they have finally lost their funding and all planes are grounded... Were there any Qantas codeshares still being offered? When I flew to India the other week they were looking shaky and so I flew via HK with QF and CX..


1. Jet's fleet has shrunk from 119 aircraft to 6-7 (all domestic).

2. Funding discussions - whilst not successful Monday or yesterday - are still 'on-going'.

3. However, in parallel, the State Bank of India issued an EOI (Expression of Interest) for the sale of Jet on 8 April, closing 10 April. They received 7-8 initial bids, which have been narrowed to a preferred 4.

4. One B777 has been impounded at AMS.

5. The greater majority of all Jet's widebodies are in the process of Indian 'deregistration' which is essential before they can be seized by the leasing companies and repatriated back to their owner(s).

QF has been very quiet about the issue of their partner and codeshares - even though problems have been evident for months. Not a mention on the QF website. Similarly, reports suggest that Delta is still offering Award booking redemptions on Jet Airways. Good luck with that!


A cursory search on QF's website yesterday reveals no Jet partner flights. QF's (interim?) option for travellers from Australia is to route them via Hong Kong to India using CX ex HKG. SYD-BOM Y for a week out is in excess of $5,200 return. Even Air India can offer SYD-DEL at approx. $1,900.

I'm a bit surprised that QF is not offering transit via BKK using partner Bangkok Airways - although this may be due to connections..


LatteLaptopLoon

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Everything Etihad touches seems to turn bad
Last editedby Chris Chamberlin at Apr 18, 2019, 12:48 PM.

DanV

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EY is the modern day SwissAir, imo.

Oddly enough, The 21% stake in VA seems to be EY's "best buy" during the controversial James Hogan era (the architect behind all those disaster investments).

Last editedby Chris Chamberlin at Apr 18, 2019, 12:48 PM.

blingwad

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Person seated next to me on Tuesday was supposed to be flying to Singapore then on to india with Jet, but was contacted by QF the day before and changed to go via HK then onwards with CX, so qantas were clearly taking precautions

kimshep

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Everything Etihad touches seems to turn bad
Last edited by ChrisCh at Apr 18, 2019, 12.48 PM.



To be fair to Etihad, they 'bought the best house on the worst street'. Their share of the company is 24% with the majority being owned and managed by a somewhat autocratic Naresh Goyal (until his ousting from the Jet Airways Board last week). I would go so far as to suggest that - at the time - Jet Airways was one of Etihad's better investment decisions. It had true potential - in what should have been a rapidly growing market.

For years, Jet Airways has clearly been streets ahead of the closest competitor Air India / Indian Airways. Many of the current problems with Jet Airways are a mix of banking / finance issues (read over-lending and greed), poor day-to-day management and the intervention (at will) and changing policies with lack of aviation focus by the Indian Government.

Etihad is one of the 4 preferred bidders in the mentioned 'EOI' and as an existing asset holder, they may well emerge as the saviour of the company. However, if they do emerge as the new owner, there is no doubt that a Jet Airways mark 2 will be a very different entity from the current iteration.

brinkers

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Person seated next to me on Tuesday was supposed to be flying to Singapore then on to india with Jet, but was contacted by QF the day before and changed to go via HK then onwards with CX, so qantas were clearly taking precautions

Qantas have been rerouting passengers between Singapore and India since April 11.

Until May 5
Permitted airlines:
CX, KA: SIN–X/HKG–INDIA vv
MH: SIN–X/KUL–INDIA vv
UL: SIN–X/CMB–INDIA vv
SQ, MI: SIN–INDIA vv

Post May 6
Permitted airlines:
MH: SIN–X/KUL–INDIA vv
UL: SIN–X/CMB–INDIA vv (if in Economy)
Last editedby brinkers at Apr 18, 2019, 01:37 PM.

rencontre

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Fingers crossed, they sort something out. Flew with them a few years ago from Delhi to Kolkata and Dubai. They addressed every guest by name during the meal service IN ECONOMY!! Don't get that in business on some carriers. Def one of the best I've flown

adethyasjce

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Fingers crossed, they sort something out. Flew with them a few years ago from Delhi to Kolkata and Dubai. They addressed every guest by name during the meal service IN ECONOMY!! Don't get that in business on some carriers. Def one of the best I've flown

Very true, have flown quite a few flights w/ 9W when I was in India and have always felt valued. Hopefully they come out of their financial issues

hakkinen5

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EY is the modern day SwissAir, imo.

Oddly enough, The 21% stake in VA seems to be EY's "best buy" during the controversial James Hogan era (the architect behind all those disaster investments).

Last edited by ChrisCh at Apr 18, 2019, 12.48 PM.
Their best buy was an airline losing several hundred million per year for several years. Says a lot about James Hogan's acquisitions, no?

patrickk

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The QF move explains the recent announced codeshare with CX to mainly Indian ports.

Joe

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Don't forget James Hogan drove Gulf Air into the ground too and subsequently got the boot. Why EY chose to take him on with that in his resume history beats me.That said, Gulf carriers do have lots of interference from their respective governments.

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