Sydney First lounge with Oneworld Emerald but claiming QF points

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docsimonm

Member since 29 Mar 2017

Total posts 25

Hello all,

I'm wondering if anyone who has flown on a QF international flight out of Sydney, claimed points and status credits with QFF but also been able to access the first lounge using another OneWorld Emerald status?

If so, is it just a matter of showing your card at the door?

Thanks!

(Mod note: edited Oneworld Sapphire to Emerald)

Rhino

Member since 27 Aug 2013

Total posts 5

Hi docsimonm, do you mean Oneworld Emerald, Oneworld Sapphire doesn't grant access to First Lounges?

traveller99

Member since 18 Nov 2015

Total posts 110

There shouldn't be any issue because I've been told by British Airways and Cathay Pacific that it's the CARD that gets you in the door, not the frequent flyer number in the booking.

From my own personal experience:

1. I get access to the BA First Lounge at Heathrow even if I have my non-status BA Exec Club number in the booking, but so long as I show them my Qantas Platinum Card (I asked one of the people at the front desk of the lounge and they said all they need to see is a valid card).

2. Ditto for Cathay Pacific -- was told exactly the same thing.

WORST CASE SCENARIO DO THIS: Put you other FF number on the booking so it shows on your boarding pass to enter the lounge. Then when you get the gate, ask them to change the FF number to your Qantas FF number.

Last editedby traveller99 at Jun 09, 2020, 07:05 AM.

docsimonm

Member since 29 Mar 2017

Total posts 25

Originally Posted by Rhino

Hi docsimonm, do you mean Oneworld Emerald, Oneworld Sapphire doesn't grant access to First Lounges?

Sorry yes I did!

bmc

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 22 Aug 2013

Total posts 113

So the key for me as a newly minted Qatar OWE will be will they give us a soft landing to Sapphire after June 2021? My flights won't increase any significant amount until April next year. If they do give a soft I can aim for Qantas Gold over the next year or two, using my Qatar OWE card for lounge access whilst funneling flight status credits to Qantas. Sound like a reasonable strategy?

moa999

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 02 Jul 2011

Total posts 835

So I assume you are a (newly matched) QR OWE but wanting to earn status/points on QF.

For CX flights I believe you have to have the StatusCard in at checkin, as only then will the CX Lounge invite card print, and (I've been told previously) that CX won't pay other airline lounges unless they have the invite card.

For others believe just the card will do.

Some systems, including Amadeus can reportedly have a separate card for Status field versus Earning field, but this doesn't seem consistent across all oneworld members, let alone finding a staff member who knows the system well enough.

bmc

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 22 Aug 2013

Total posts 113

I expect we are both newly matched OW elites. I know this arrangement worked with VA and SQ so I'm hoping a similar thing as DocSimon suggested will work


Matt_01

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 23 Feb 2016

Total posts 59

I cannot see you running into issues provided you are flying out on OW flight number and OW operated, this is no different to using a QF issued card at any of the OW lounges. I have never had issues accessing other OW F lounges operated by QR, CX, JL or AA with my QF card I just show the card and access is granted, this seems to be the same situation you are asking about. If you have the inclination you can look up the OW lounge access rules https://www.oneworld.com/. The other point to note if you are going to access the lounge with your QR card, QF will use the OW lounge access policies not the QF access policies and there are slight differences.

Last edited by Matt_01 at Jun 10, 03.34 PM.
Last editedby Matt_01 at Jun 10, 2020, 03:47 PM.

docsimonm

Member since 29 Mar 2017

Total posts 25

Originally Posted by Matt_01

I cannot see you running into issues provided you are flying out on OW flight number and OW operated, this is no different to using a QF issued card at any of the OW lounges. I have never had issues accessing other OW F lounges operated by QR, CX, JL or AA with my QF card I just show the card and access is granted, this seems to be the same situation you are asking about. If you have the inclination you can look up the OW lounge access rules https://www.oneworld.com/. The other point to note if you are going to access the lounge with your QR card, QF will use the OW lounge access policies not the QF access policies and there are slight differences.

Last edited by Matt_01 at Jun 10, 03.34 PM.
Last editedby Matt_01 at Jun 10, 2020, 03:47 PM.
Interesting point! I looked at the oneworld policy and it doesn't actually mention anything about guests or kids!

docsimonm

Member since 29 Mar 2017

Total posts 25

Originally Posted by moa999

So I assume you are a (newly matched) QR OWE but wanting to earn status/points on QF.

For CX flights I believe you have to have the StatusCard in at checkin, as only then will the CX Lounge invite card print, and (I've been told previously) that CX won't pay other airline lounges unless they have the invite card.

For others believe just the card will do.

Some systems, including Amadeus can reportedly have a separate card for Status field versus Earning field, but this doesn't seem consistent across all oneworld members, let alone finding a staff member who knows the system well enough.

Great! Thank-you!

Matt_01

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 23 Feb 2016

Total posts 59

Originally Posted by docsimonm

Originally Posted by Matt_01

I cannot see you running into issues provided you are flying out on OW flight number and OW operated, this is no different to using a QF issued card at any of the OW lounges. I have never had issues accessing other OW F lounges operated by QR, CX, JL or AA with my QF card I just show the card and access is granted, this seems to be the same situation you are asking about. If you have the inclination you can look up the OW lounge access rules https://www.oneworld.com/. The other point to note if you are going to access the lounge with your QR card, QF will use the OW lounge access policies not the QF access policies and there are slight differences.

Last edited by Matt_01 at Jun 10, 03.34 PM.
Last editedby Matt_01 at Jun 10, 2020, 03:47 PM.
Interesting point! I looked at the oneworld policy and it doesn't actually mention anything about guests or kids!

The OW website is not that great here is a better link that includes the rules but you need to scroll down and open each section https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lounges?location=

At a high level and not going into all the detail if you want to get into the QF F lounge:

  • If you are QF OW emerald on a QF marketed flight the QF rules apply.
  • If you are QF OW emerald on a OW flight (i.e. CX or JL flight number) the OW rules apply.
  • If you OW emerald with another OW carrier the OW rules apply.

If the QF rules apply you can normally bring in one guest and kids travelling with you do not count as a guest. If the OW apply normally kids under the age of 2 do not count, but over 2 they are considered a guest. Unfortunately it does not end there as each of the OW member airlines have their own published rules around guests and children access which is normally on their own websites and not on the OW web site.

patrickk

Qantas

Member since 19 Apr 2012

Total posts 521

Originally Posted by docsimonm

Hello all,

I'm wondering if anyone who has flown on a QF international flight out of Sydney, claimed points and status credits with QFF but also been able to access the first lounge using another OneWorld Emerald status?

If so, is it just a matter of showing your card at the door?

Thanks!

(Mod note: edited Oneworld Sapphire to Emerald)

Should be able to when they open again. I've done the converse with Cathay and BA first lounges. They could open in September for NZ but more likely sometime next year when their's maybe more customers. Cathay and Qatar may not deliver enough numbers. Expect the business lounge until then.

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