Non-Refurbished A380s operating QF11

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vhojm

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 25 Oct 2019

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I'll admit that I am a big Qantas fanatic but I have to admit that I think this is quite disappointing.

When VH-OQB was announced as the first A380 to come home I was surprised as it was not one of the refurbished A380s.

I thought that maybe they had quietly refurbished it when it went for its D Check and would operate with the new cabins.

But when looking on ExpertFlyer for QF11 on January 11, you can clearly see it is still operating with the old MKII sky beds in a 2-2-2 configuration.

This is a large downgrade for all the people originally booked on 787s and I can't fathom why Qantas didn't send one of the refurbished planes back first.

David

Member since 24 Oct 2010

Total posts 1,010

Hi VHOJM – our understanding is that this first A380 was primarily intended for crew training ahead of the return of the refurbished A380s for the restart of A380 flights in Q2, and as this one was already in Dresden for a major maintenance check, it was quicker and easier to bring that A380 back to Sydney rather than go through the process of 'unhibernating' (readying for return to service) one of the A380s which was put into 'deep storage'.

However, due to the impact of 14-day quarantine on Qantas' 70-odd Brisbane-based Boeing 787 pilots, this necessitated a significant reshuffling of the schedule across January owing to reduced Boeing 787 availability, and this in turn led to a bit of 'creative thinking' such as putting that unrefurbished A380 back into service to help address the 787 shortfall.

hakkinen5

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Member since 20 Aug 2014

Total posts 148

If only the QLD government would get with the program....

Joe

Member since 03 May 2013

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"but shes keeping us safe......"

nige00160

Member since 07 Jan 2016

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Only 8 covid fatalities in QLD during the whole pandemic, Joe.

tommygun

Delta Air Lines - SkyMiles

Member since 16 Oct 2017

Total posts 187

Qantas needs to be upfront about which a380 is operating which service.

KW72

Member since 17 Jun 2020

Total posts 43

Originally Posted by David

Hi VHOJM – our understanding is that this first A380 was primarily intended for crew training ahead of the return of the refurbished A380s for the restart of A380 flights in Q2, and as this one was already in Dresden for a major maintenance check, it was quicker and easier to bring that A380 back to Sydney rather than go through the process of 'unhibernating' (readying for return to service) one of the A380s which was put into 'deep storage'.

However, due to the impact of 14-day quarantine on Qantas' 70-odd Brisbane-based Boeing 787 pilots, this necessitated a significant reshuffling of the schedule across January owing to reduced Boeing 787 availability, and this in turn led to a bit of 'creative thinking' such as putting that unrefurbished A380 back into service to help address the 787 shortfall.

David why not make it clear in the article that this is the old A380 operating? I can see several pictures of the new A380 but zero pictures of the old product. This is deceptive marketing by Qantas.

patrickk

Qantas

Member since 19 Apr 2012

Total posts 651

It seems perfectly sensible to bring the A380 from Dresden following a D check for a month or so as needed and then send it back for refurbishment.

C44

Member since 15 Sep 2021

Total posts 3

Originally Posted by David

Hi VHOJM – our understanding is that this first A380 was primarily intended for crew training ahead of the return of the refurbished A380s for the restart of A380 flights in Q2, and as this one was already in Dresden for a major maintenance check, it was quicker and easier to bring that A380 back to Sydney rather than go through the process of 'unhibernating' (readying for return to service) one of the A380s which was put into 'deep storage'.

However, due to the impact of 14-day quarantine on Qantas' 70-odd Brisbane-based Boeing 787 pilots, this necessitated a significant reshuffling of the schedule across January owing to reduced Boeing 787 availability, and this in turn led to a bit of 'creative thinking' such as putting that unrefurbished A380 back into service to help address the 787 shortfall.

Hi David, I agree with what you are saying. With border closures and ever-changing quarantine requirements for crew, it would have been difficult to plan ahead. But lets face it QF should be experienced enough to ensure they don't get themselves in this situation!

Once they got themselves into this position, they need to be upfront on what the product offering will be. Stop posting pictures of the new product, when that is not what the customer is going to experience on their flight. In other circles this may be considered as misleading.



KW72

Member since 17 Jun 2020

Total posts 43

Originally Posted by C44

Originally Posted by David

Hi VHOJM – our understanding is that this first A380 was primarily intended for crew training ahead of the return of the refurbished A380s for the restart of A380 flights in Q2, and as this one was already in Dresden for a major maintenance check, it was quicker and easier to bring that A380 back to Sydney rather than go through the process of 'unhibernating' (readying for return to service) one of the A380s which was put into 'deep storage'.

However, due to the impact of 14-day quarantine on Qantas' 70-odd Brisbane-based Boeing 787 pilots, this necessitated a significant reshuffling of the schedule across January owing to reduced Boeing 787 availability, and this in turn led to a bit of 'creative thinking' such as putting that unrefurbished A380 back into service to help address the 787 shortfall.

Hi David, I agree with what you are saying. With border closures and ever-changing quarantine requirements for crew, it would have been difficult to plan ahead. But lets face it QF should be experienced enough to ensure they don't get themselves in this situation!

Once they got themselves into this position, they need to be upfront on what the product offering will be. Stop posting pictures of the new product, when that is not what the customer is going to experience on their flight. In other circles this may be considered as misleading.



Seems it is not in Executive Traveller interest to post honest images about Qantas product.


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