Qantas status credits on QR metal ticketed with AA flight numbers

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suejammo

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Member since 06 May 2018

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May be a dumb question for some of our very well versed QFFs, but I can’t find the answer anywhere and hoping someone can help. We are flying from CGK to DOH and on to JFK and return in Business (D). Flights purchased through AA and all on QR metal (yay, QSuite on all but one of the flights if they don’t change the planes). I am Qantas FF Gold and these flights and some later in the year will take me very close to Platinum. Will I earn at the AA Qantas status credits rate or the QR rate? Thank you in anticipation.

FmD

Member since 25 Jun 2019

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Regardless of who issued the ticket (AA in your case), you’ll earn based on the carrier marketed tag. So if your flights are AA tagged, the AA rate. If they are QR tagged, the QR rate.

Note that Qantas is tricky with QR codeshares. For example, SYD-LHR via DOH on QR metal will earn nearly nothing regardless of the tag being QR or BA (codeshare). Qantas does that because they directly compete with QR on that route. You’ll find that both CGK-DOH and DOH-JFK have more generous accruals as they are not routes QF operates themselves.

suejammo

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Member since 06 May 2018

Total posts 5

Originally Posted by FmD

Regardless of who issued the ticket (AA in your case), you'll earn based on the carrier marketed tag. So if your flights are AA tagged, the AA rate. If they are QR tagged, the QR rate.

Note that Qantas is tricky with QR codeshares. For example, SYD-LHR via DOH on QR metal will earn nearly nothing regardless of the tag being QR or BA (codeshare). Qantas does that because they directly compete with QR on that route. You'll find that both CGK-DOH and DOH-JFK have more generous accruals as they are not routes QF operates themselves.

Thanks for your advice FmD, much appreciated. Interestingly, when I use the Qantas calculator and enter the destinations, the only option that comes up is QR and the earn rate is lower than I would have hoped (200 SC CGK-DOH return and 320 SC DOH-JFK return). Maybe they calculate it individually in situations like this.


Last editedby suejammo at May 16, 2023, 06:04 AM.

FmD

Member since 25 Jun 2019

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Originally Posted by suejammo

Originally Posted by FmD

Regardless of who issued the ticket (AA in your case), you'll earn based on the carrier marketed tag. So if your flights are AA tagged, the AA rate. If they are QR tagged, the QR rate.

Note that Qantas is tricky with QR codeshares. For example, SYD-LHR via DOH on QR metal will earn nearly nothing regardless of the tag being QR or BA (codeshare). Qantas does that because they directly compete with QR on that route. You'll find that both CGK-DOH and DOH-JFK have more generous accruals as they are not routes QF operates themselves.

Thanks for your advice FmD, much appreciated. Interestingly, when I use the Qantas calculator and enter the destinations, the only option that comes up is QR and the earn rate is lower than I would have hoped (200 SC CGK-DOH return and 320 SC DOH-JFK return). Maybe they calculate it individually in situations like this.


Last editedby suejammo at May 16, 2023, 06:04 AM.
To be honest, I actually think 520SCs all together for this trip in QR metal is quite generous, specially when you look at the rates QF gives to other partners.

They used to keep the calculator very up to date with the codeshare agreements, doesn’t seen to be the case anymore. If the QR/BA codeshare agreement is anything to go by, QF treats both tags the same.

quantumreality

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Member since 16 Jan 2018

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It may be a lot more tricky with this type of ticketing.

To start, Qantas calculator does not always have the option to pick the marketed carrier for that particular route. For example, as OP mentioned above, and I myself also double check just now, the Qantas calculator does not have the option to choose 'AA' as the marketed airline for CGK-DOH route, there is only QR option. So I would not assume I would earn that much FF SC and points, if at all.

I had a similar ticketing situation: AY-marketed flight (that is AYXXX), operated by Malaysia airlines metal, on KUL-SIN route, trying to credit FF points to my QF account. The booking class was 'R', which according to Qantas FF Earning Category table, for AY , is classed at Business category.

On the website, it was even stated that "Qantas Points and Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes, except on Finnair codeshare flights operated by an airline other than Qantas or a oneworld member airline."

As this is a codeshare flight operated by a oneworld member airline (MH), I would assume that the flight was eligible for QFF points.

However, on my FF statement, it was stated the flight was NOT ELIGIBLE for any FF points. To my dismay.

In short, just be prepared for an unexpected outcome in this sort of ticketing arrangement.

Last editedby quantumreality at May 21, 2023, 12:37 PM.

suejammo

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 06 May 2018

Total posts 5

Originally Posted by quantumreality

It may be a lot more tricky with this type of ticketing.

To start, Qantas calculator does not always have the option to pick the marketed carrier for that particular route. For example, as OP mentioned above, and I myself also double check just now, the Qantas calculator does not have the option to choose 'AA' as the marketed airline for CGK-DOH route, there is only QR option. So I would not assume I would earn that much FF SC and points, if at all.

I had a similar ticketing situation: AY-marketed flight (that is AYXXX), operated by Malaysia airlines metal, on KUL-SIN route, trying to credit FF points to my QF account. The booking class was 'R', which according to Qantas FF Earning Category table, for AY , is classed at Business category.

On the website, it was even stated that "Qantas Points and Status Credits are earned on all eligible booking classes, except on Finnair codeshare flights operated by an airline other than Qantas or a oneworld member airline."

As this is a codeshare flight operated by a oneworld member airline (MH), I would assume that the flight was eligible for QFF points.

However, on my FF statement, it was stated the flight was NOT ELIGIBLE for any FF points. To my dismay.

In short, just be prepared for an unexpected outcome in this sort of ticketing arrangement.

Last editedby quantumreality at May 21, 2023, 12:37 PM.
Fingers crossed that’s not the outcome! I’ll call the QFF call centre tomorrow to check.

suejammo

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 06 May 2018

Total posts 5

A post script which is a good news story - I decided not to call the QFF call centre and take my chance and see whether the SCs were allocated without intervention. To my surprise, they did, and within hours of taking the flights! They appeared in my statement as AA, and all in all, I scored 520 SCs, and with some additional flights in September just before my anniversary I will make P for the first time.

3 out of the 4 QR flights were QSuite which were a delight. The final flight from DOH-CGK was the old QR 777 configuration which was fine as the service is still top notch and the seats are SO spacious. Coming off the QR experience, including the new DOH Al Mourjan The Garden Lounge, to QF A330 from CGK to SYD, was like going from QF to JQ. The food offering was woeful and the service very average. As other writers have noted, the benefits of QFF Gold and above are really only realised now when travelling internationally and benefiting from OW partner airlines and their lounges.

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