Dimming QF11 Boeing 787 electronic window shades
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VNAV
VNAV
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Do the cabin crew on QF11 the daylight flight from LAX to JFK set the electronic window shades to full black out mode for the cruise portion of the flight
Stephen D
Stephen D
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They can all be set remotely by cabin crew, thus turned on upon take off and landing, and turned off at night. I have only flown during the day in SQ and they did not adjust them during the flight, however I would expect that they would darken them at night.
StuParr
StuParr
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The crew will tend to darken them for night time flights. Staff do that on flights where they are flying during the day however for the aircraft it is night time. They lock them until a certain time when the passengers can again adjust the window shading.
Ryan K
Ryan K
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Whilst not related to this particular QF flight in question, I recently flew Thai Airways in their 787 from Bangkok to Taipei. The flight was a daytime flight - 8:30am - 2pm and the crew darkened the windows for about 90% of the flight. I found it really annoying. Give me the A350 any day.
aggie57
aggie57
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Agreed! These fancy windows on 787’s are overkill and tech for tech sake. They don’t fully black out, even the latest ones, and they reflect. If it’s dark inside but someone has a light on you can see the reflection on your window even if you’re on the other side of the cabin.
AJW
AJW
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Vietnam airlines did that on the SGN-HAN flight I took with them. However they weren’t locked so could be “opened”
anonymous
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I thought that they dimmed the windows on all long haul flights regardless of whether the sun is out to encourage people to sleep and thus require less service from the cabin crew.
PCHammond
PCHammond
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I just got off QF11 from LAX to JFK
VNAV
VNAV
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In good weather it is a very interesting trip flying over Las Vegas, Salt Lake City Utah then across Colorado Nebraska and Iowa to Chicago and Detroit on the Great Lakes before descending into JFK. A most memorable flight enjoyed from the upper deck seat 15A on a 747
patrickk
patrickk
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The other great flight for views is Tokyo to London across Siberia I hope JAL don’t dim them on that one.
aussiflyer
aussiflyer
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I did Tokyo to helsinki on JAL and they did. All day flight and they were controlled by the crew from about 90 minutes after departure. Very annoying
Red Cee
Red Cee
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I elieve they do dim them, and for this reason I won’t fly the 787. From all accounts, a good plane, however, I believe this is wrong, as people like to look out the window.
elchriss0
elchriss0
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Luckily JAL also offer a 77W on the LHR route to avoid the issue
Flyman
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On the 787 the crew can set intervidual windows to any setting. So if they “close” all the windows, a quick push of the call button and a friendly request should give you control of your window again. I agree will comments here that the standard closing of windows on day flights is wrong and makes jet lag worst.
charlie18
charlie18
Member since 01 Aug 2018
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Sorry for the long post (not quite off topic, as the same applies on older aircraft with manual shades), but...
This can be a bit of a contentious issue - and I expect several will have a whinge about what im about to say...
I can see this from both the perspective of crew and passenger, as well as from the POV as a bit of an avgeek - (given that at times, ive been all three!).
As a passenger, I prefer a darker cabin, although during a day-time flight (say AU-Asia), I'm usually happy enough if its just the cabin lights off on a North-South flight - you can dim your own shade, and others can enjoy the view. On anything East-West - make it as dark as possible, even if daytime - It is far more easy to stay awake in a dark cabin, than it is to sleep in a bright cabin (watch a movie/work on your laptop - maybe even have a short kip too, so you arrive refreshed). That said, if 80%-90% of pax close their shades on a north south daytime flight like this, its only polite to do the same. No one (crew or pax) likes those one or two hold outs who brighten the cabin because they're too stubborn to be polite. (Worse is the one who closes the shade, then opens it randomly in a dark cabin).
From a crew perspective, the same holds true too, but I would unapologetically try my hardest to get everyone to lower their shades on an overnight flight. I would even go down the aisle and carefully lean over to lower any open shades, and also switch off glaring IFE screen (only when pax in those seats were sleeping). This not only meant those passengers could get a good rest, but also ensured our crew got a proper break (on what is a long day at work!).
Most long haul flights, the cabin crew are divided in half after the first service, and using the time remaining until 2-3 hours prior to landing, half would rest while the others worked. This is to ensure the final meal service is completed with all crew on deck, but so that all crew also get a rest (so that they are alert should they have to get you out of a burning wreck at the other end - which is important). Back on the QF 767 to HKG, this would mean only 2 crew on duty in economy, and only 1 or 2 up in Business. At altitude, the sun seems to rise a lot earlier - so 220 passengers waking to an unnatural sunrise, could render those few crew on duty running off their feet, and not delivering the service expected.