Clearly from recent news of new routes QF must be getting great returns on the 787, talk of A380’s shuffling to SIN, HK and HND seem to suggest they are trying to get better utilisation/return from them (aka they are too big). The big questions are the Sunrise long haul replacement, what happens with domestic 737’s and the rumoured mid market airplane. It would seem a big expensive change to swap 737’s to A320, the rumoured 797 is Boeing and AJ has talked positively about it a few times, and then Sunrise would have to be A350 for Airbus to stay in. What happens if QF choose the 777X? It feels like strategically Airbus have to win the Sunrise deal to keep themselves in the fleet. Thoughts?
Betteridge's law of headlines is an atage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
Firstly the a380s won't be leaving for another 8 years at least as they are about to get a refurb. The 717s and the Fokker 100s will need to be replaced soon, so an order for the a220 could happen soon.
And with all the problems with the 737max and Qantas's reputation for safety, there won't be an order soon for them any time soon. The 99 a320neo series on order for the group seems a bit to large for Jetstar only, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some in QF colours.
Most airlines now like to keep a mixed fleet, so that they can get better deals from both manufacturers and to safe guard against any problems.
777X is very likely for Sunrise. But QF will keep a mixed fleet, with the A380s and A330s. I'd venture the 717s will be replaced by the A220, and the 738s by 737 NG of some description.
The A350 is proven while the 777-8 is not so there is a point to Airbus for the Long distance flights. The A320 family has a lot more options than the 737MAX group, such as long range stretched versions. So unless a Mid range Boeing come along well before 2025 then that is another point to Airbus.
crwilkins
crwilkins
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Clearly from recent news of new routes QF must be getting great returns on the 787, talk of A380’s shuffling to SIN, HK and HND seem to suggest they are trying to get better utilisation/return from them (aka they are too big). The big questions are the Sunrise long haul replacement, what happens with domestic 737’s and the rumoured mid market airplane. It would seem a big expensive change to swap 737’s to A320, the rumoured 797 is Boeing and AJ has talked positively about it a few times, and then Sunrise would have to be A350 for Airbus to stay in. What happens if QF choose the 777X? It feels like strategically Airbus have to win the Sunrise deal to keep themselves in the fleet. Thoughts?
Pcoder
Pcoder
Member since 14 Oct 2016
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I think this is appropriate:
Betteridge's law of headlines is an atage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
Firstly the a380s won't be leaving for another 8 years at least as they are about to get a refurb. The 717s and the Fokker 100s will need to be replaced soon, so an order for the a220 could happen soon.
And with all the problems with the 737max and Qantas's reputation for safety, there won't be an order soon for them any time soon. The 99 a320neo series on order for the group seems a bit to large for Jetstar only, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some in QF colours.
Most airlines now like to keep a mixed fleet, so that they can get better deals from both manufacturers and to safe guard against any problems.
Aidan
Aidan
Member since 05 Dec 2018
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737max is a lesson to keep mixed fleets.
John Phelan
John Phelan
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 28 Oct 2011
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777X is very likely for Sunrise. But QF will keep a mixed fleet, with the A380s and A330s. I'd venture the 717s will be replaced by the A220, and the 738s by 737 NG of some description.
patrickk
patrickk
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Member since 19 Apr 2012
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The A350 is proven while the 777-8 is not so there is a point to Airbus for the Long distance flights. The A320 family has a lot more options than the 737MAX group, such as long range stretched versions. So unless a Mid range Boeing come along well before 2025 then that is another point to Airbus.
Goat Guy
Goat Guy
Member since 03 May 2017
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Evidently the A380 is most cost effective around 8 to 10hrs flight time so up into Asia makes sense.
Luke49
Luke49
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 17 Aug 2017
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I think Qantas will definitely get the A220 to replace 717’s.
Himeno
Himeno
Member since 12 Dec 2012
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