Flying over Russia?

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Bullswood

Member since 06 Oct 2021

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Our group has just canned our SYD/DRW/LHR for a different airline without 6hrs over Russia. I'm told U.S. and UK carriers have already stopped overflying, with other EU carriers such as KL & LH from today. Quite apart from not fancying a tech/medical diversion or worse in those surroundings, several members of our group weren't keen on any of our fare dollars being spent bolstering Russia through overflight fees, even at the expense of their lost QF points!

I gather the PER/LHR route can go south - any chance of that being brought forward, even if it means transit pax stay on board?

mviy

Member since 05 May 2016

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Another option would be to shift DRW to LHR to flying over the Middle East. One would think QF would be considering their options.

There's staffing and scheduling issues for QF to consider if they shift the route, so it's not typically something that happens at short notice.

patrickk

Qantas

Member since 19 Apr 2012

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Bullswood, I’m sure alternative routings are in play here. I’m sure the Darwin Heathrow can also go south.

Bullswood

Member since 06 Oct 2021

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I imagine most QF LHR passengers have no idea they will be spending so many hours over Russia - the benefit of flat earth maps!

Last editedby Bullswood at Feb 27, 2022, 03:52 PM.

heathcor

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 14 Oct 2012

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Just read a story on this and the Qantas captain having to explain to passengers in the lounge at Darwin why they were going to fly over Russia. I'm looking at flights later in the year and there is no way I would consider flying over Russia or China at the moment. I'm sure they will continue to justify it - until something goes horribly wrong.

Bullswood

Member since 06 Oct 2021

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I understand routing changed from tonight.


https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/qantas-responds/statement-on-london-flight-path/

Last editedby Bullswood at Feb 27, 2022, 05:27 PM.
Last editedby Bullswood at Feb 27, 2022, 05:30 PM.

Racala

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 22 May 2018

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From what I have read many airlines are changing their routes to avoid flying over Russia.. or alternatively Russia is banning then from flying over Russia. Bullswood (above) has the local response.

sydney slug

Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer

Member since 27 Feb 2015

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I have SIN/HEL booked for 21 April, Hard to not fly over Russia for HEL, I imagine by then even Finnair may have to travel via the Baltic.

MrT

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 28 Aug 2015

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Flew LHR-DRW today and the route went south over the Middle East and India. As a result it took an hour longer. Conversely on the way over to London last week we took a northerly route over Russia and shaved an hour off the flight time.

Personally not sure why there is an issue of flying over northern Russia when the conflict is to the south - the southern route actually took us a lot closer to Ukraine

John Phelan

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Member since 28 Oct 2011

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Originally Posted by MrT

Flew LHR-DRW today and the route went south over the Middle East and India. As a result it took an hour longer. Conversely on the way over to London last week we took a northerly route over Russia and shaved an hour off the flight time.

Personally not sure why there is an issue of flying over northern Russia when the conflict is to the south - the southern route actually took us a lot closer to Ukraine

I think it's a combination of safety, politics and dollars (roubles). Yes, the safety of overflying either country is questionable. But there's also the political consideration - many airlines and nations are making a point to Russia. Also, when an airline flies through another country's airspace, it pays the country for this privilege. And no-one wants to give Russia money for anything right now.

abudhabi1

Thai Airways International - Royal Orchid Plus

Member since 15 Jan 2013

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what other options and this applies from Sydney or Melbourne where the flights start for a Transit stop can they use without the hassles?far fetched ideas could be Tokyo,Los Angeles,Vancouver where the plane refuels then continues to London or at a Stretch Anchorage or Seoul.

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