European airlines returning to Australia?

European airlines returning to Australia?

Finnair are increasing to twice daily Helsinki - Hong Kong and daily to Singapore. Australia is their biggest offline market. Other European

airlines like Turkish are talking about introducing flights. do you think

we will see European airlines introduce services to Australia?

Cant see it happening unfortunatley. The arrival of the big 3 from the Middle East has prevented any of the European Airlines returning.

There is a chance that Turkish could start flights to Australia, but their continual delay has me less hopeful.

Unlikely, they work quite well by using alliance carriers SQ or CX etc.

AY flights to SIN and HKG for instance feed into all australian ports, which they wouldnt be able to do with their own metal.

How is BA doing out of SYD these days? 

QF and CX perhaps

Its possible but the Kangaroo Route is very crowded and arguably dominated by the ME3 and perhaps SQ and CX.

Smaller and more efficient airframes would make more market entrants possible but I'm not sure if any of the big European airlines (other than BA, which already serves Australia) have ordered that many of the smaller Dreamliners (and the A350 is substantially larger). In addition, alliances make it far less necessary for European carriers to service Australia with their own metal. Finally, smaller and more efficient airframes benefit all airlines including the competitors on the Kangaroo Route.

I'm sure we'll see Turkish in Australia at some point.

As for other European airlines, they may return to Australia when suitable planes allow the journey to be completed non-stop... hence providing an advantage over the ME3. Whilst it remains a one-stop proposition, I can't see it happening.

British Airways are apparently looking at returning to melbourne. not sure if it will be 787. possibly via bangkok.

Nice. Where did you see that?

Been reported in business section of Melbourne age newspaper

I think BA stopped Melbourne flights in 2005, but now they are making money again...

I suggest many people would prefer a Singapore stop-over rather than BKK, but a lot less competition to Bangkok.

Can't remember exactly where the proposed stop over was. May have been Singapore. Main issue to BA is no alliance with Australian airlines

They do by virtue of OW

I remember traveling with them from Melbourne and the flight was always full

Can you provide a link?

I think BA loads from Sydney are quite healthy and breaking up JV with QF did good for them to create own competitive prices. Not sure on economy but their pricing in business from Europe is great (e.g $4..5K from OSL) and that makes them interesting.