Qantas to announce Paris-Perth Boeing 787 flights this month?

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Dan22

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Reading that French article it's not clear if flights would be this September 2018 or next September 2019. Either way as it doesn't cite any source and isn't one of the leading news websites I would not rate it as having any credibility.

I was thinking the same thing - the way they have written the article also states that QF will launch Perth to Los Angeles - this is false, the only talk about this was aircraft that can do the range. So they are cleary misguided here.

mviy

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If QF are successful with the non stop QF9/10, could we see Air France/KLM or Lufthansa return to our shores non stop also?


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I think competition is more likely to come with non-stop between the East Coast and destinations such as London Heathrow etc. If you’re going to have a connection it doesn’t have to be in Perth, and other airlines won’t have their International flights flying into the Domestic terminal.

patrickk

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It may be a possibility if the AA/QF agreement gets knocked backed again, using the spare two planes and thus give up on the Chicago et al idea, but I suspect it will be 2020 when more planes arrive.

brisflyer

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I wish they would fly into France or Germany but via Singapore. The flight from Perth to Europe is too long for our family

boeingimgoing

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Doubt that very much. There isn’t enough 787-9’s in the fleet to do it. Via SIN would be a much better option.

maabbot

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The length of Perth to Europe is long but its within the ball park (albeit longer) of SYD-Dallas and other US flights...I think the focus on "mine is longer than yours" as part of the publicity of this whole new route has really detracted from this being an incremental improvement, not some evolutionary change as was the case when we moved from props to jets.

Alistarch

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The second article suggests that PER-LAX might be on the cards! Whilst that definitely seems like wishful thinking, it would be a pleasant surprise if it comes to fruition!

Perth - Melbourne - LAX

moa999

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Note that FY20 could mean July/Aug/Sep 2019 with some early deliveries.

JJJJJJJ

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@Mjkan Why not?


Yes, why not? It makes sense for Perth to be the hub for Africa & Europe. @Mjkan you’re not being precious about Melbourne are you? (cue eye roll)

Red Cee

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Moa99, we can only hope that there will be early deliveries of the 787 in 2019 for the 19/20 year.

SeaVisionBurma

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The french article states that qantas wants to make Perth a western hub with no fewer than 50 international destinations... surely not?

My take on this was that its 50 including destinations with connections - not 50 direct destinations ex-PER

14AspenDrive

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Palaszczuk just announced sister city agreements between BrisVegas and Las Vegas so expect a 787-9 BNE/LAS/ORD

Red Cee

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Some time ago, Qantas announced a plan that they hoped to run a BNE to LAS Flight. You may be on the money there number 14.

kimshep

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They may have access to daily slots, but they can't use them. The AU-FR air service agreement only allows 3 "units" to be flown to the French mainland each week. A unit is based on the aircrafts seating capacity.
The QF 787 config would allow for 6 flights/week (at 236 seats, it is 0.5 units - 3 seats short of the cut off to the 0.6 range).

The current 4 787s are spoken for with the LAX/SFO-MEL-PER-LHR route.
When the next 2 arrive later this year, they are going on BNE-LAX-JFK. It is still unknown what the last 2 from the current firm order will be doing, but if they were to be put on BNE-PER-CDG, the flight times required would mean an evening BNE-LAX (like the timing for QF95 from the end of the month), which would then make the LAX-JFK flight impossible
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I wonder whether there would be a possible 'alternate' scenario, Himeno ?

Given that the 2 older B747-400's have been given a reprieve (ie: will now be retired in late 2019 rather than 2018) it could be possible for QF to leave them on the BNE-LAX-JFK route for the time being. That would free up the 2 next B797-9's to fly a pure BNE-PER-CDG-PER-BNE route without the add-on LAX sectors.

Doing this would maintain the status quo for BNE-LAX-JFK (for approx. 12 months), would provide a meaningful role for the 2 B747-400 frames .. and would give QF the chance to launch a new European route (CDG). It would also enhance QF's study to see just how efficient and well-performing the B787-9 really is.

One other advantage of this: if a B787-9 frame goes unserviceable in LHR, the CDG route could have function as a 'back-up' frame in place to help with repatriating stuck passengers. After all, it's a quick jump across the Channel into LHR.

The above scenario is the only way I could see QF launching CDG flights on the B787-9 in September this year. But I would think that it could work for them. The only issue here though is that the real market for CDG is primarily located in SYD and partly MEL, but that is an issue that QF will face anyway.



Last editedby kimshep at Mar 26, 2018, 08:57 AM.

Himeno

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I wonder whether there would be a possible 'alternate' scenario, Himeno ?

Given that the 2 older B747-400's have been given a reprieve (ie: will now be retired in late 2019 rather than 2018) it could be possible for QF to leave them on the BNE-LAX-JFK route for the time being. That would free up the 2 next B797-9's to fly a pure BNE-PER-CDG-PER-BNE route without the add-on LAX sectors.

Doing this would maintain the status quo for BNE-LAX-JFK (for approx. 12 months), would provide a meaningful role for the 2 B747-400 frames .. and would give QF the chance to launch a new European route (CDG). It would also enhance QF's study to see just how efficient and well-performing the B787-9 really is.

One other advantage of this: if a B787-9 frame goes unserviceable in LHR, the CDG route could have function as a 'back-up' frame in place to help with repatriating stuck passengers. After all, it's a quick jump across the Channel into LHR.

The above scenario is the only way I could see QF launching CDG flights on the B787-9 in September this year. But I would think that it could work for them. The only issue here though is that the real market for CDG is primarily located in SYD and partly MEL, but that is an issue that QF will face anyway.



Last edited by kimshep at Mar 26, 2018, 08.57 AM.

In such a case, flight times and CDG curfews would likely to requiring 3 aircraft for the flight.

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