It will be very interesting to see if they pick up customers who drop their AMEX platinum cards after the evaluation of the AMEX rewards program in April.
Last editedby vbarberini at Feb 12, 2019, 10:38 AM.
I can definitely see the appeal to big spenders vice high flyers. Not much benefit to top tier FF’s but anyone else with deep pockets and lower status could easily counterbalance the fee with a couple of long haul J flights.
This card makes little sense. Most big spenders would have at least platinum status already? The FF point rate is useful but does not compensate the 1200 annual fee. My personal spend is over the 12k per month and so I will not get the extra benefit. plus no flight voucher, hotel affiliation etc. I will stick with Amex where I can use it and Westpac when I am forced to use MC
I think this is the card aimed for high rollers who travel on once or twice business class flights on Qantas. They haven't flown enough for Platinum Status so first class lounge passes could be useful and can take advantage of the discount enough to offset the annual fee. Or they could be aiming for those that are burning Qantas points on flights as soon as they earn it, so can't earn enough status credits but can use the lounge passes on flights too.
I think this is the card aimed for high rollers who travel on once or twice business class flights on Qantas. They haven't flown enough for Platinum Status so first class lounge passes could be useful and can take advantage of the discount enough to offset the annual fee. Or they could be aiming for those that are burning Qantas points on flights as soon as they earn it, so can't earn enough status credits but can use the lounge passes on flights too.
It would seem to me that it is very unlikely rhat there is somebody in this country that fits the target market for this card; namely:
1) 200k income
2) cares about points and status rather than just booking whatever J/F flight they want with their 12k+ per month spend
AND
Feels the need to swap credit cards to get benefits they would never notice due to the above two.
I’d imagine that wealthier people (the kind who have 200k+ but only travel for leisure) don’t care about this stuff in the slightlest.
I am a medical professional (so I fly infrequently for conferences, and a few times a year for leisure, but nowhere near the extent of a business traveller) who is unlikely to ever achieve above my current gold FF status, so I guess the card is aimed at someone similar to my demographic, however there is no chance I would get this card. I would essentially be paying $1200 a year to gain entry to the First lounge once (with my partner) and so I can get a modest discount off some flights twice per year? I am perfectly happy with my Amex Ultimate card at a third of the price, entirely offset by the $450 yearly travel credit, and the standard Qantas club entry I am afforded by my gold status. On top of that - a metal card means no PayWave, and Qantas last time I checked still refuses to get on board with Apple Pay so I can't use my phone or watch to make purchases either. Thanks but no thanks!
This card is one of the worst value cards to ever to hit the market .
200k income requirement but monthly points earn capped at 12.5k .
10% discount of flights only good if you buy J and F rev tickets and have the ability to do it via the card . Same with the SC bonus if your work books your travel then also useless.
F lounge passes also not transferable .
The features of this card align to something with a $300 annual fee at best. This card has really missed the mark unless the target market is cashed up QF fan boys who want something “titanium”.
a. someone with over $200,000pa income and flies QA and
b. is a snob and wants the metal card
metal card is not easy on touch pay, and its heavy, not to mention it s slippery in any wallet slot...
I'm not entirely sure what you are on about - I have the metal Amex and I've never had any issues with touch pay on any device (or in other countries).
johng
johng
Etihad - Etihad Guest
Member since 07 Feb 2019
Total posts 5
What are people's thoughts? Does it represent value for money?
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vbarberini
vbarberini
Member since 16 Oct 2012
Total posts 39
It will be very interesting to see if they pick up customers who drop their AMEX platinum cards after the evaluation of the AMEX rewards program in April.
Anthony9006
Anthony9006
Etihad - Etihad Guest
Member since 10 Feb 2019
Total posts 2
whoppersandwich
whoppersandwich
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 11 Dec 2017
Total posts 125
I can definitely see the appeal to big spenders vice high flyers. Not much benefit to top tier FF’s but anyone else with deep pockets and lower status could easily counterbalance the fee with a couple of long haul J flights.
obanpointer
obanpointer
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 08 Jun 2014
Total posts 318
This card makes little sense. Most big spenders would have at least platinum status already? The FF point rate is useful but does not compensate the 1200 annual fee. My personal spend is over the 12k per month and so I will not get the extra benefit. plus no flight voucher, hotel affiliation etc. I will stick with Amex where I can use it and Westpac when I am forced to use MC
djtech
djtech
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 02 Sep 2018
Total posts 375
I think this is the card aimed for high rollers who travel on once or twice business class flights on Qantas. They haven't flown enough for Platinum Status so first class lounge passes could be useful and can take advantage of the discount enough to offset the annual fee. Or they could be aiming for those that are burning Qantas points on flights as soon as they earn it, so can't earn enough status credits but can use the lounge passes on flights too.
Mjkcan
Mjkcan
Singapore Airlines - KrisFlyer
Member since 14 Jun 2017
Total posts 63
It would seem to me that it is very unlikely rhat there is somebody in this country that fits the target market for this card; namely:
ratrace
ratrace
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 01 Apr 2018
Total posts 50
Even being in the income bracket, $1200 fee = no!
s4172249
s4172249
Jetstar Airways - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 18 Feb 2018
Total posts 39
I am a medical professional (so I fly infrequently for conferences, and a few times a year for leisure, but nowhere near the extent of a business traveller) who is unlikely to ever achieve above my current gold FF status, so I guess the card is aimed at someone similar to my demographic, however there is no chance I would get this card. I would essentially be paying $1200 a year to gain entry to the First lounge once (with my partner) and so I can get a modest discount off some flights twice per year? I am perfectly happy with my Amex Ultimate card at a third of the price, entirely offset by the $450 yearly travel credit, and the standard Qantas club entry I am afforded by my gold status. On top of that - a metal card means no PayWave, and Qantas last time I checked still refuses to get on board with Apple Pay so I can't use my phone or watch to make purchases either. Thanks but no thanks!
andrew84
andrew84
Member since 08 Nov 2014
Total posts 6
the earn threshold seems a bit stingy imo
morco
morco
Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards
Member since 20 Dec 2011
Total posts 9
The target market is
a. someone with over $200,000pa income and flies QA and
b. is a snob and wants the metal card
cablecartman
cablecartman
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 21 Jul 2018
Total posts 5
There really shouldn't be a monthly points earn cap when you're spending this much on an annual fee - the card is designed for buyers after all.
twitch1979
twitch1979
Member since 17 Aug 2016
Total posts 1
This card is one of the worst value cards to ever to hit the market .
lvtravel01
lvtravel01
Member since 01 Sep 2015
Total posts 9
The target market is
a. someone with over $200,000pa income and flies QA and
b. is a snob and wants the metal card
metal card is not easy on touch pay, and its heavy, not to mention it s slippery in any wallet slot...
jubbing
jubbing
American Airlines - AAdvantage
Member since 13 Jul 2015
Total posts 60
The target market is
a. someone with over $200,000pa income and flies QA and
b. is a snob and wants the metal card
metal card is not easy on touch pay, and its heavy, not to mention it s slippery in any wallet slot...
I'm not entirely sure what you are on about - I have the metal Amex and I've never had any issues with touch pay on any device (or in other countries).