Qantas vs Virgin Australia: Airbus A330s on east-west flights

By Chris Chamberlin, August 28 2017

SPECIAL REPORT | Business travellers jetting to Perth with both Qantas and Virgin Australia are teased with the promise of spacious lie-flat business class beds on each airline's Airbus A330 fleet.

But frequent flyers have noted a steady increase in the number of those east-west flights operated by each airline's smaller Boeing 737 jets, which offers a vastly less comfortable experience on those 4-5 hour trips.

There should be no surprise there. The WA resources market has softened, taking the edge off a 'capacity war' which saw Qantas and Virgin Australia battle for transcontinental high flyers, as both airlines adjust their aircraft schedule to suit.

Virgin Australia is also redirecting some of its A330 fleet towards Asia, although the challenger now promises to launch a new Boeing 737 business class seat later this year.

But how much of the talk about swapping Airbus A330s for Boeing 737s is anecdotal, and how much can be measured and proven?

Australian Business Traveller, using data provided by FlightAware, has crunched the numbers on over 14,000 one-way flights between Perth and Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane – measured every three months between August 2015 and May 2017 – and shown how the mix of Airbus A330 and Boeing 737 flights has changed over time, by airline and by route.

Cancelled, diverted, cargo-only and ‘positioning’ flights (where no passengers are on board) have been excluded from our calculations, while in the case of aircraft swaps between A330s and Boeing 737s, we’ve counted only the aircraft type that flew – not the aircraft type that was scheduled but didn’t fly.

As expected, most travellers setting foot on an east-west flight today are far more likely to be on a Boeing 737 than an Airbus A330 compared to the past few years.

Here’s what we found.

Qantas: Airbus A330s on Sydney-Perth-Sydney flights

Between Sydney and Perth (including flights in both directions), the number of Qantas A330 flights has slowly decreased over time – reduced from 354 services in August 2015 to 270 in May 2017 – despite the overall number of flights (across both aircraft types) winding back only marginally from 418 to 400 in the same months.

August 2015 also saw the lowest number of Boeing 737 flights with a 15% chance of one arriving at your cross-country boarding gate, while in May 2017, almost one third of Sydney-Perth and Perth-Sydney flights found a Boeing 737 assigned to the job.

Qantas: Airbus A330s on Melbourne-Perth-Melbourne flights

At least three quarters of all flights between Melbourne and Perth were aboard Airbus A330s over the time periods we measured, except in August 2015 and again in May 2017 when approximately one in every three flights took wing using a Boeing 737.

That’s despite the total number of flights in May 2017 being almost unchanged from 12 months prior – 427 flights across both aircraft types against 424 total flights in May 2016 – and although travellers had a slightly better chance of scoring an A330 in February 2017 (79%) compared to the same month in 2016 (75%), the total number of flights on both jets had decreased.

Qantas: Airbus A330s on Brisbane-Perth-Brisbane flights

Between Brisbane and Perth, Qantas Boeing 737s now outnumber A330s on the cross-country trek, with 128 Boeing 737 flights in May 2017 versus 113 Airbus A330 runs during the same month.

In February 2017, the gap was even wider with 138 Boeing 737 flights against 104 Airbus A330s – finding only 43% of flights with the more favourable plane and Qantas' Business Suites – yet in all months prior, your chances of catching an A330 were much higher between the same cities, ranging from 58% to 65%, and the overall number of flights each month not having materially changed compared to the year before.

AusBT review: Qantas Airbus A330 Business Suite business class

Virgin Australia: Airbus A330s on Sydney-Perth-Sydney flights

Virgin Australia’s year-on-year flight totals were also relatively unchanged between Sydney and Perth, but despite the number of Boeing 737 flights significantly decreasing from February 2016 (69 flights) to February 2017 (23 flights), that surged to 70 Boeing 737 flights in May 2017:

That’s still an improvement on the earliest-recorded figures in August 2015 – where A330s handled 151 flights and Boeing 737s ran 84 – and the total number of A330 flights measured in the ‘August 2016 to May 2017’ period (754 flights) was indeed greater overall than between August 2015 and May 2016 (685 flights).

Virgin Australia: Airbus A330s on Melbourne-Perth-Melbourne flights

Following boosts in August and November 2016, Virgin Australia’s Airbus A330 flights between Melbourne and Perth have more recently been pared back to the same numbers as in February and May 2016:

Boeing 737 flights were also relatively unchanged between November 2015 and February 2017, but hit a high in May 2017, serving on 120 flights against 175 Airbus A330 legs.

However, compared to the same month in 2016, this uptick reflects an increase in the total number of flights between Melbourne and Perth year-on-year (295 in May 2017 versus 263 in May 2016), rather than a ‘reduction’ in Airbus A330 flights, with the widebody jet handling 175 sectors in May 2017, versus 173 flights in May 2016.

Virgin Australia: Airbus A330s on Brisbane-Perth-Brisbane flights

Queensland flyers were the least likely to step aboard a Virgin Australia Airbus A330, with the overwhelming majority of flights between Brisbane and Perth using Boeing 737s.

Airbus A330 flights peaked in November 2016 at 56 of 215 total monthly flights – but that dropped to 28 of 200 flights in February 2017 and to 14 of 218 flights in May 2017: still an improvement compared to just five A330s in May 2016 against 223 total flights, but still gives Brisbane passengers very little chance to fly in The Business.

AusBT review: Virgin Australia Airbus A330 'The Business', business class

Qantas vs Virgin Australia: Airbus A330s on Perth flights

Crunching the numbers across all 14,637 Qantas and Virgin Australia transcontinental flights measured in this report, we can also see how the overall percentage of Airbus A330 flights has changed over time for both airlines.

For instance, only Qantas passengers between Melbourne and Perth and Virgin Australia flyers between Sydney and Perth had a higher chance of scoring an Airbus A330 in May 2017 compared to August 2015, with the odds having decreased in all other cases.

We can also see that between November 2016 – when most routes had the highest levels of A330 flights – and May 2017, the percentage of those A330 legs decreased across both airlines and all three city pairs.

Hardest-hit were Brisbane flyers with both airlines reducing Airbus A330 flights by approximately 20 percentage points, and although Virgin Australia’s Sydney-Perth-Sydney flights were still the most likely to be served by an Airbus A330, those chances also declined by 17 percentage points over the same period.

Chris Chamberlin

Chris Chamberlin is the Associate Editor of Executive Traveller and lives by the motto that a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step, a great latte, a theatre ticket and a glass of wine!

PERflyer

PERflyer

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

15 Aug 2017

Total posts 82

Only a matter of time until no more VA 330 coast to coast with their mainland China hopes! 

John Phelan

John Phelan

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

28 Oct 2011

Total posts 322

Putting the flash J suites on the aircraft (for both QF and VA) really was the death knell for the A330 on transcon flights; flat beds are really a ridiculous luxury on flights that only last between 3 and 5 hours.  

Sonnenberg

Sonnenberg

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

25 Apr 2017

Total posts 6

Disagree that they're a ridiculous luxury and the amount of **** Qantas gets on this site for their use of 737 on PER-SIN (similar length) suggest others feel the same

Trogdor

Trogdor

11 Dec 2015

Total posts 81

Not if you're taking the redeye back from Perth and have to be on deck in the office at 9am the next day

11sjw

11sjw

11 Mar 2012

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When you're on that last flight out of BNE (for me having flown down from TSV) scoring a flat bed was great.

mcglynp

mcglynp

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

20 Jan 2016

Total posts 61

Thanks for the article really good to see the numbers that substantiate the perception of a lot of flyers.  Certainly gives context to Virgin looking to up upgrade the 737 business seat, and the improvements that will bring to the passenger experience.    

Skipp

Skipp

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

20 Aug 2012

Total posts 126

Well reasearched article Chris. I feel although the A330 business class products from both airlines were a bit OTT (for domestic flights of less than 5 hours), it was justified to a limited extent by charging a premium. Given the inevitable down turn in the mining boom, these business class premium prices are becoming harder to justify for people (& companies) for a 3 to 5 hour flight time. Hence the inevitable reduction in premium travel occurring on the east-west route.

The issue with the domestic product choices for Qantas and Virgin Australia is the increasing gap between the two available business class products in Australia. (Either the A330 business hard product, or the B737 business hard product). This has lead to high expectations from consumers who always want & expect the best (particularly when being charged a hefty premium $), & whom are disappointed when they receive the alternative inferior product.

Every time I fly on Cathay Pacific/Dragon I can't help but feel that the regional business class seats that are installed on their aircraft would have been totally ideal to be fitted on regional (3 to 6 hour flights) versions of A330/B737 aircraft. I'm no major number cruncher, but I feel it would have made better economic sense in the longer term.

Paully

Paully

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

02 Feb 2015

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Hang on , the mining boom has certainty slowed down - yes . However things Are starting to pick up again . A fact that I'm hiring new full time employees again and many of those have moved out of Wa back east . IMO the rush will be back on aagain . 

AT

AT

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

14 Sep 2012

Total posts 259

Good analysis and what's it's saying is exactly what QF and VA already know that E><W is losing demand for A330s and thee are being reassigned to new routes and/or those with more demand. The 737 is perfectly fine for 5ish hours as needed. 

11sjw

11sjw

11 Mar 2012

Total posts 293

Whilst it will take a great deal of investment for the cycle to go upwards the big mining houses have both committed to large studies to replace capacity they expect to lose in the near future.  This will mean some sizeable mining related construction taking place soon.

Andy H

Andy H

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16 May 2011

Total posts 116

What even is a VA A332 in BNE anymore😂?

Zac

Zac

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

23 May 2014

Total posts 129

Great article - I think AusBT is one of the highest quality publications for journalism in Australia, travel or otherwise

sydboy007

sydboy007

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

08 Jul 2016

Total posts 23

Maybe QF and VA should have an A330 surcharge and then when they frack the customer over they can refund the surcharge for providing an inferior product.

tracejonbrown

tracejonbrown

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

30 Jan 2013

Total posts 3

Thank you Chris for this review. Recently my partner and myself traveled to both Canada and the US for a much anticipated trip. The returned business class fares that we purchased from PERTH-SYDNEY-LAX- NEW YORK with QANTAS were great ........until that last leg from Melbourne to Perth sitting upright in J class as opposed to a flat bed...awful

AyKew

AyKew

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

31 Aug 2017

Total posts 1

Travelled to Perth last week on QF A330. Total of 40 PAX. Easy trip for the crew! How long can this last?

david2202

david2202

Qantas

19 Jun 2015

Total posts 18

Great article Chris and absolute proof of the subtle changes both QF and VA made after ending the capacity war. Who wants to fly in 3+3 seat after a 2 seat Airbus. Anything longer than 2 hours in a 73 is hell unless you score an empty middle seat of Biz upgrade - virtually impossible with 12 seats only in J. Pays to check aircraft type before booking a flight. A330 is still most used by QF Per/Mel/Per but much less on Sat/Sun

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