I intend to fly BA SYD-SIN-LHR in Sept/Oct return. Does anyone know if BA has the new World Traveller Plus/ Prem. Econ. on their 777 planes? I was in SIN the other day talking to BA staff at the BA lounge and they did not know. The old PE on BA is very ordinary, the new PE cabin is very good I have been told. P.S the new Qantas lounge in SIN is top class.
I believe they've already started deploying the 777-300 on BA15/16. That is the aircraft with the new PE (WTP) product. AUSBT reported on this recently. Expertflyer seat maps also confirm the 777-300 is being deployed on BA15/16. It's a shame when the ground staff, especially those working in the lounge don't take an interest in knowing these things. You'd think they would be more proactive given it's Singapore!
Indeed BA will use the 777 with updated seating from SYD to LHR. If you want to stay on the 777, make sure you are booked on BA15/16 the whole way and not continue onto BA11/12 in SIN as they will be on the 747. The lounge staff in SIN could well be contract staff employed by the ground operator and therefore they are clueless about BA specific information.
I tried booking QF Sydney-Sin-LHR but was only given Syd-SIN-Dubai-LHR as the only route available. And to top it up I was put in economy (as Emirates don't have PE). The return fare was over AUD 6500! I agree QF PE is a very good product and I would have liked to use QF to SIN but that is not going to happen. With the new BA WTP I will be flying BA or possibly CX from now and only do my 4 sectors in Australia with QF to keep my status up.
Daniell: I totally agree with you that the QF PE prodcut is much better than the BA offering. However, PE on QF to LHR cost quite a bit more as compared to BA especially after the EK deal.
I personally think that the PE onboard CX is comparable to BA's refreshed PE on the 777. CX also offers a good quality lounges during the stopover in HKG and a nice amenity pack but it tends to have an inflight service which is less consistent than BA. (CX seems to offer very differentiated service within one cabin- I often see crew treat some passengers who are presumably CX FF very well, they treat OW FF just fine and are quite indifferent to those who are neither OW nor CX FF.) I have also personally seen CX crew abusing passengers, there was once in CX Biz when the crew was very rude to this poor lady seated next to me. She was simply asking them about the location of the Arrivals lounge in HKG as she couldn't find it the other time she was in HKG and the crew couldn't be bothered to give her a proper reply and brushed her off in a condescending manner that you can't miss it if you follow the signs. This was obviously not true as the CX Arrivals lounge is well hidden below the Airport Express station and there are not many signs that direct you in the right direction. I felt so bad for her that I actually offered to show her the way to the Arrivals lounge.
The best part about flying BA nowadays is that you arrive and depart from T5 which is a huge step up from the older T3 at LHR. That said, T3 does offer you a choice of non-BA OW lounge if you dislike the BA lounges but I find the BA T5 lounges to be pretty decent.
Have you considered flying with Qantas SYD-DXB-LHR on the A380 on premium economy. Service is outstanding and by far the best premium economy out there from my experience. Definently go for Qantas over British Airways if you can!
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kcarlson
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I intend to fly BA SYD-SIN-LHR in Sept/Oct return. Does anyone know if BA has the new World Traveller Plus/ Prem. Econ. on their 777 planes? I was in SIN the other day talking to BA staff at the BA lounge and they did not know. The old PE on BA is very ordinary, the new PE cabin is very good I have been told. P.S the new Qantas lounge in SIN is top class.
TheRealBabushka
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I believe they've already started deploying the 777-300 on BA15/16. That is the aircraft with the new PE (WTP) product. AUSBT reported on this recently. Expertflyer seat maps also confirm the 777-300 is being deployed on BA15/16. It's a shame when the ground staff, especially those working in the lounge don't take an interest in knowing these things. You'd think they would be more proactive given it's Singapore!
Waynec
Waynec
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Indeed BA will use the 777 with updated seating from SYD to LHR. If you want to stay on the 777, make sure you are booked on BA15/16 the whole way and not continue onto BA11/12 in SIN as they will be on the 747. The lounge staff in SIN could well be contract staff employed by the ground operator and therefore they are clueless about BA specific information.
Daniell
Daniell
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Can you not fly with QF in this class?
It's not just the seat, but the whole PE experience on QF is so much better with regards to entertainment, service, food, amenities. Or Cathay?
kcarlson
kcarlson
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I tried booking QF Sydney-Sin-LHR but was only given Syd-SIN-Dubai-LHR as the only route available. And to top it up I was put in economy (as Emirates don't have PE). The return fare was over AUD 6500! I agree QF PE is a very good product and I would have liked to use QF to SIN but that is not going to happen. With the new BA WTP I will be flying BA or possibly CX from now and only do my 4 sectors in Australia with QF to keep my status up.
Waynec
Waynec
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Daniell: I totally agree with you that the QF PE prodcut is much better than the BA offering. However, PE on QF to LHR cost quite a bit more as compared to BA especially after the EK deal.
I personally think that the PE onboard CX is comparable to BA's refreshed PE on the 777. CX also offers a good quality lounges during the stopover in HKG and a nice amenity pack but it tends to have an inflight service which is less consistent than BA. (CX seems to offer very differentiated service within one cabin- I often see crew treat some passengers who are presumably CX FF very well, they treat OW FF just fine and are quite indifferent to those who are neither OW nor CX FF.) I have also personally seen CX crew abusing passengers, there was once in CX Biz when the crew was very rude to this poor lady seated next to me. She was simply asking them about the location of the Arrivals lounge in HKG as she couldn't find it the other time she was in HKG and the crew couldn't be bothered to give her a proper reply and brushed her off in a condescending manner that you can't miss it if you follow the signs. This was obviously not true as the CX Arrivals lounge is well hidden below the Airport Express station and there are not many signs that direct you in the right direction. I felt so bad for her that I actually offered to show her the way to the Arrivals lounge.
The best part about flying BA nowadays is that you arrive and depart from T5 which is a huge step up from the older T3 at LHR. That said, T3 does offer you a choice of non-BA OW lounge if you dislike the BA lounges but I find the BA T5 lounges to be pretty decent.
TravelLover123
TravelLover123
Member since 23 Feb 2013
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Have you considered flying with Qantas SYD-DXB-LHR on the A380 on premium economy. Service is outstanding and by far the best premium economy out there from my experience. Definently go for Qantas over British Airways if you can!