The first, and i respect David and the entire ABT team.With the multiple comments related may be you can add something other than the 2 linner non sence.Read into it an get a life.As has been said other posts i just want David and ABT to give clarification.
Yes I think "Get a life" is a pretty good summation if you expect AusBT to revolve around pandering to your whining questions instead of doing their job. And an explanation of their policy was given earlier in this thread, not that AusBT owes any of us any 'explanation' on their workings. You want a different response? Go read a different website or better yet start your own and show us how it's done.
I think this is an issue not just for AUSBT but for all organisations that allows advertising on its website.
As the Google algorithm and marketing technology improves, it would be increasingly common for a website reader to be subjected to marketing that is so targeted and poignant to suggest implicit endorsement of a product by the organisation, even if that is not the intention.
Perhaps a way forward is for the organisation to place a banner on its website to instruct readers that any advertising appearing on its website is not a suggestion or an implicit endorsement of the products being marketed.
So AUSBT gets both the income from advertising and also extends a duty of care to readers by warning them that advertising content is completely uncontrolled by AUSBT.
David, does the AUSBT's contract with Google limit AUBT's ability to provide such explicit disclosures on the website?
You really think that every newspaper, magazine, TV station, radio station and website should run banners or voice-overs advising they do not endorse advertisers? That's a bit over the top don't you think? What happened to people being allowed to have some common sense?
Just a word on how our ads are handled, for the sake of clarity.
Within Australia, advertising is sold by an agency which represents AusBT along with at least dozen other publishers. Companies which wish to reach the AusBT audience buy ad placements through that agency. This is the same process as almost every other professional / commercial website in Australia.
If you're visiting AusBT from overseas you'll likely see several Google ads geared towards whatever country you're in at the time.
In neither instance will we start running banners telling readers what they should already know, ie that advertising on AusBT does not equal endorsement by AusBT. That's a "nanny state" mentality gone mad.
David: I do appreciate the clarification here, but at the end of the day I don't come here for the ads. I come here for the content and the insight that regulars provide. I do recognise that this community brings with it the good and the bad, so I congratulate you on managing to navigate our non-sense, whining and 'unique perspectives' - of which this thread is a clear example. :)
11sjw: interesting idea but how to 'review' them apart from booking flights? We could just do a 'how they work, how they compare' piece - interesting idea, will consider it for when we have the time.
I'm just concerned at the perception or implied endorsement. But I take yours and David's point about taking it to the extreme.
I just hope unsuspecting readers do not get caught out using the services of questionable and unscrupulous dealers, especially so when such adverts are presented to them via this forum.
It is testament to the value and pride in AUSBT that we've had so much input on this topic. That speaks volumes.
reno
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The first, and i respect David and the entire ABT team.With the multiple comments related may be you can add something other than the 2 linner non sence.Read into it an get a life.As has been said other posts i just want David and ABT to give clarification.
AlG
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Yes I think "Get a life" is a pretty good summation if you expect AusBT to revolve around pandering to your whining questions instead of doing their job. And an explanation of their policy was given earlier in this thread, not that AusBT owes any of us any 'explanation' on their workings. You want a different response? Go read a different website or better yet start your own and show us how it's done.
watson374
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Well said, Al!
reno
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Good one,i like it.
reno
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Al,
Yes Al, comments were ask for clarification in multiple posts...DA.
watson374
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And they've been given. I was hoping that you could read.
TheRealBabushka
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I think this is an issue not just for AUSBT but for all organisations that allows advertising on its website.
As the Google algorithm and marketing technology improves, it would be increasingly common for a website reader to be subjected to marketing that is so targeted and poignant to suggest implicit endorsement of a product by the organisation, even if that is not the intention.
Perhaps a way forward is for the organisation to place a banner on its website to instruct readers that any advertising appearing on its website is not a suggestion or an implicit endorsement of the products being marketed.
So AUSBT gets both the income from advertising and also extends a duty of care to readers by warning them that advertising content is completely uncontrolled by AUSBT.
David, does the AUSBT's contract with Google limit AUBT's ability to provide such explicit disclosures on the website?
AlG
AlG
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You really think that every newspaper, magazine, TV station, radio station and website should run banners or voice-overs advising they do not endorse advertisers? That's a bit over the top don't you think? What happened to people being allowed to have some common sense?
David
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Just a word on how our ads are handled, for the sake of clarity.
Within Australia, advertising is sold by an agency which represents AusBT along with at least dozen other publishers. Companies which wish to reach the AusBT audience buy ad placements through that agency. This is the same process as almost every other professional / commercial website in Australia.
If you're visiting AusBT from overseas you'll likely see several Google ads geared towards whatever country you're in at the time.
In neither instance will we start running banners telling readers what they should already know, ie that advertising on AusBT does not equal endorsement by AusBT. That's a "nanny state" mentality gone mad.
PeterLoh
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David: I do appreciate the clarification here, but at the end of the day I don't come here for the ads. I come here for the content and the insight that regulars provide. I do recognise that this community brings with it the good and the bad, so I congratulate you on managing to navigate our non-sense, whining and 'unique perspectives' - of which this thread is a clear example. :)
11sjw
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How about an article reviewing Sky Lux and similar websites?
David
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11sjw: interesting idea but how to 'review' them apart from booking flights? We could just do a 'how they work, how they compare' piece - interesting idea, will consider it for when we have the time.
Kogglogs
Kogglogs
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<pops in to chat room & looks arond>
Sooooo I think imma steer clear of SkyLux, y'all.
<edges awkwardly back to the door>
;)
AdelaideMarc
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So.. in short it would seem Skylux is not all it could be and AusBT is a great website. Thats my endorsement (and not AusBT).
Great not to live in a nanny state!
To the owners of AusBT, there are a silent majority out there who appreciate all the work you do!
TheRealBabushka
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A balance ought to be struck, nanny or otherwise.
I'm just concerned at the perception or implied endorsement. But I take yours and David's point about taking it to the extreme.
I just hope unsuspecting readers do not get caught out using the services of questionable and unscrupulous dealers, especially so when such adverts are presented to them via this forum.
It is testament to the value and pride in AUSBT that we've had so much input on this topic. That speaks volumes.