Why isn't there any Airbus A380 routes to Perth yet?

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Youngdunny

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

Member since 16 Jul 2014

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Why isn't there any Airbus A380 routes to Perth yet? Despite Perth being closer to many large asian cities, large middle-eastern hubs and Europe in general?

Mal

Member since 14 Jun 2013

Total posts 109

Because there is not the population in Perth to support it, especially the top end of the market? The resources market has gone off the boil making Perth less attractive to the likes of Emirates, which would be the most likely candidate. If Emirates reckoned they could make money off an A380 for Perth you can bet they would bring that superjumbo in in an instant. The fact that they have not, and are in fact downgrading from a 777-300ER to a 777-200 later this year, shows where they think the market is heading, which means it's not one that can support a big A380 with all those business class seats plus the first class suites.

Sim1

Member since 16 May 2014

Total posts 79

This whole perth doesn't have the population is a nonsense.

If that was the case we wouldn't have Emirates(3 daily), Qatar(daily)and as of today Etihad(daily). With those only being the middle eastern carriers.

I suspect once the new emirates lounge is completed there might be some movement. The downgraded flight may stick around but doesn't mean that one of the others wouldn't get upgraded. Tho I think it could not be a goer if Etihad or Qatar had enough demand for double daily services. The perth to uk market is massive and has nothing to do with resources.

Chris_PER

Virgin Australia - Velocity Rewards

Member since 19 Feb 2014

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Yeah I disagree with the population debate, particularly when it's EK424/425(?) is temporarily being downgraded to a 77L.  The A380 was going to be deployed on the EK420/1 rotation, so maybe comparing chalk and cheese since this flights yields are always high.

As far as I see it, Perth Airport acted too late to upgrade its facilities...will be interesting to see what happens.

Sim1

Member since 16 May 2014

Total posts 79

I think we are all too quick to bag them, but I say lets see what we end up with and judge from there.

Seems to have taken forever but I think it will get there.

I heard there were going to be a couple of extra lounges in the expansion I wonder whos they might be

X

British Airways - Executive Club

Member since 24 Jan 2012

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You're points regarding Perth being closer Asia and Europe actually work against Perth for building a case for an A380. Being closer, airlines can deploy smaller aircraft such as an A330 with greater frequency, which cannot do the distance to the east coast. Greater frequencies help attract Business travellers which is higher yeild. Plus there is an added benefit of additional cargo capacity, with cargo also being very profitable.

Do you deploy 1 x A380-800 with roughly 80 business class seats and 400 economy seats and 38 cargo positions (LD3s).

Or do you deploy 2 x A330-200 with 40 business class seats and 200 economy seats each, with 26 cargo positions (LD3). Offer greater frequency, better connections, and more control over capacity by dropping one of those two flights if required?

spentan

Member since 21 Feb 2012

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I thought Perth hasn't been upgraded to A380 capable aerobridges and such yet?

Sim1

Member since 16 May 2014

Total posts 79

Gate 51 is a dual gate. 

Was only used last week by an A380 that was diverted into Perth. I think there is a second dual gate under construction in part of the new virgin australia terminal

Youngdunny

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Member since 16 Jul 2014

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I did as well, but when i recently returned from a trip and learned that gate 54 was to be made into a A380 bay along with another 1 or 2 gates on the new section of T1 which is still under construction.

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