Qantas refurbs. They say end of next year for their 12 A380s.... However, I had the displeasure of flying J on VH-EBG (I think) both to and from AKL. I didn't care all that much because it was a short flight, but I overheard MANY complaints when the J cabin filled up on boarding. Woman next to be was disgusted. The A330 refurb didn't go to plan (as far as I know) although they do have quite a lot more of them than they do A380s.....
However, it will be with interesting to see how on time the 380 refurb is!
I flew the refurbished A330 Perth to Melbourne a couple of weeks ago and scored an upgrade: those new business class seats are great. Hard to find any complaints. Interesting you heard so many on the one plane. May have been one of the last two that were done last. Quite recently.
Qantas refurbs. They say end of next year for their 12 A380s.... However, I had the displeasure of flying J on VH-EBG (I think) both to and from AKL. I didn't care all that much because it was a short flight, but I overheard MANY complaints when the J cabin filled up on boarding. Woman next to be was disgusted. The A330 refurb didn't go to plan (as far as I know) although they do have quite a lot more of them than they do A380s.....
However, it will be with interesting to see how on time the 380 refurb is!
Just for the record EBG has been flying upgraded business suite 1-2-1 for a little while now. The whole 330 fleet is guaranteed business suite.
The other week I was booking a flight with Qantas, and wanted a price with extra bags to compare prices. I entered my details but didnt even get to the payment screen when I abandoned the transaction.
That afternoon Qantas sent me an automated email stating they were holding my seats and the price had been saved. It included a PNR reference. This indicated to me that the Qantas website is creating and storing the PNR throughout the online shopping experience, and has a TKTL/TKXL (ticketing time limit/auto cancel) of at least a few hours. Most other airlines do not create and save the PNR for failed or abandoned transactions.
I suspect this is causing some inventory flucuations, which will affect prices. i.e. If you or others start booking flights but don't complete it, the PNR will be created reducing availanle seat inventory at the lower price. When you search later, it books it into the higher bucket.
I have to agree - I find QANTAS' price policy frustrating. Pricing changes constantly and, to get a good price. you often have to take some tortuous route at midnight. I'm currently P1, which means an awful lot of booking and flying with them - and loyalty. Recently, I have been less loyal and have been booking with BA, JAL, Finnair and Cathay. For the most part, it has been a breath of fresh air. I will lose my P1 status - but it has been worth it.
All airlines work on a demand pricing system. Certainly not something unique to Qantas!
Qantas refurbs. They say end of next year for their 12 A380s.... However, I had the displeasure of flying J on VH-EBG (I think) both to and from AKL. I didn't care all that much because it was a short flight, but I overheard MANY complaints when the J cabin filled up on boarding. Woman next to be was disgusted. The A330 refurb didn't go to plan (as far as I know) although they do have quite a lot more of them than they do A380s.....
However, it will be with interesting to see how on time the 380 refurb is!
I flew the refurbished A330 Perth to Melbourne a couple of weeks ago and scored an upgrade: those new business class seats are great. Hard to find any complaints. Interesting you heard so many on the one plane. May have been one of the last two that were done last. Quite recently.
Yes, it was VH-EBG both ways, definitely not refurbished yet. Woman next to me was complaining for the whole 3 and a tad hours. I wouldn't have been happy either given the high quality of the A330 J refurb, but I was upgraded and was relatively happy!
Seriously mate, you spentall this time writing this just over $30 odd dollars. We can always start a gofundme page for you.
Cheers
I would be grateful for a GFM page! Apologies but my OP was incorrect, hence the further post. $179 each way ($358 return) turned into $292 each way ($584 return) making it over 160% more expensive and with considerably longer journey times and the latest departure on return leg is 12:45 PM as opposed to 16:25 PM.
Qantas refurbs. They say end of next year for their 12 A380s.... However, I had the displeasure of flying J on VH-EBG (I think) both to and from AKL. I didn't care all that much because it was a short flight, but I overheard MANY complaints when the J cabin filled up on boarding. Woman next to be was disgusted. The A330 refurb didn't go to plan (as far as I know) although they do have quite a lot more of them than they do A380s.....
However, it will be with interesting to see how on time the 380 refurb is!
Just for the record EBG has been flying upgraded business suite 1-2-1 for a little while now. The whole 330 fleet is guaranteed business suite.
This was back in early May, note that I said (I think) after quoting EBG
It's not just Qantas and it's not just in Australia. I book US domestic on AA a lot, prices can move considerably for the same flight and same seats within a day or two. Just last week I booked 3 seats LAX to HNL on AA in January and this happened to me. I waited 24hrs and it cost me $600 more.
But at the same time I've saved decent amounts from the same thing. Don't blame Qantas, the whole industry works that way.
patrickk
patrickk
Qantas
Member since 19 Apr 2012
Total posts 731
Originally Posted by PLEASEupgrademe
Qantas refurbs. They say end of next year for their 12 A380s.... However, I had the displeasure of flying J on VH-EBG (I think) both to and from AKL. I didn't care all that much because it was a short flight, but I overheard MANY complaints when the J cabin filled up on boarding. Woman next to be was disgusted. The A330 refurb didn't go to plan (as far as I know) although they do have quite a lot more of them than they do A380s.....
However, it will be with interesting to see how on time the 380 refurb is!
I flew the refurbished A330 Perth to Melbourne a couple of weeks ago and scored an upgrade: those new business class seats are great. Hard to find any complaints. Interesting you heard so many on the one plane. May have been one of the last two that were done last. Quite recently.
PERflyer
PERflyer
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 15 Aug 2017
Total posts 47
Originally Posted by PLEASEupgrademe
Qantas refurbs. They say end of next year for their 12 A380s.... However, I had the displeasure of flying J on VH-EBG (I think) both to and from AKL. I didn't care all that much because it was a short flight, but I overheard MANY complaints when the J cabin filled up on boarding. Woman next to be was disgusted. The A330 refurb didn't go to plan (as far as I know) although they do have quite a lot more of them than they do A380s.....
However, it will be with interesting to see how on time the 380 refurb is!
Just for the record EBG has been flying upgraded business suite 1-2-1 for a little while now. The whole 330 fleet is guaranteed business suite.
X
X
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Member since 24 Jan 2012
Total posts 87
The other week I was booking a flight with Qantas, and wanted a price with extra bags to compare prices. I entered my details but didnt even get to the payment screen when I abandoned the transaction.
That afternoon Qantas sent me an automated email stating they were holding my seats and the price had been saved. It included a PNR reference. This indicated to me that the Qantas website is creating and storing the PNR throughout the online shopping experience, and has a TKTL/TKXL (ticketing time limit/auto cancel) of at least a few hours. Most other airlines do not create and save the PNR for failed or abandoned transactions.
I suspect this is causing some inventory flucuations, which will affect prices. i.e. If you or others start booking flights but don't complete it, the PNR will be created reducing availanle seat inventory at the lower price. When you search later, it books it into the higher bucket.
AJW
AJW
Member since 16 Nov 2011
Total posts 55
Originally Posted by mern2001
I have to agree - I find QANTAS' price policy frustrating. Pricing changes constantly and, to get a good price. you often have to take some tortuous route at midnight. I'm currently P1, which means an awful lot of booking and flying with them - and loyalty. Recently, I have been less loyal and have been booking with BA, JAL, Finnair and Cathay. For the most part, it has been a breath of fresh air. I will lose my P1 status - but it has been worth it.
All airlines work on a demand pricing system. Certainly not something unique to Qantas!
PLEASEupgrademe
PLEASEupgrademe
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 16 Nov 2017
Total posts 95
Originally Posted by patrickk
Originally Posted by PLEASEupgrademe
Qantas refurbs. They say end of next year for their 12 A380s.... However, I had the displeasure of flying J on VH-EBG (I think) both to and from AKL. I didn't care all that much because it was a short flight, but I overheard MANY complaints when the J cabin filled up on boarding. Woman next to be was disgusted. The A330 refurb didn't go to plan (as far as I know) although they do have quite a lot more of them than they do A380s.....
However, it will be with interesting to see how on time the 380 refurb is!
Yes, it was VH-EBG both ways, definitely not refurbished yet. Woman next to me was complaining for the whole 3 and a tad hours. I wouldn't have been happy either given the high quality of the A330 J refurb, but I was upgraded and was relatively happy!
PLEASEupgrademe
PLEASEupgrademe
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 16 Nov 2017
Total posts 95
Originally Posted by Seat 4a
Seriously mate, you spentall this time writing this just over $30 odd dollars. We can always start a gofundme page for you.
Cheers
I would be grateful for a GFM page! Apologies but my OP was incorrect, hence the further post. $179 each way ($358 return) turned into $292 each way ($584 return) making it over 160% more expensive and with considerably longer journey times and the latest departure on return leg is 12:45 PM as opposed to 16:25 PM.
Apologies for the mistake.
PLEASEupgrademe
PLEASEupgrademe
Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 16 Nov 2017
Total posts 95
Originally Posted by PERflyer
Originally Posted by PLEASEupgrademe
Qantas refurbs. They say end of next year for their 12 A380s.... However, I had the displeasure of flying J on VH-EBG (I think) both to and from AKL. I didn't care all that much because it was a short flight, but I overheard MANY complaints when the J cabin filled up on boarding. Woman next to be was disgusted. The A330 refurb didn't go to plan (as far as I know) although they do have quite a lot more of them than they do A380s.....
However, it will be with interesting to see how on time the 380 refurb is!
Just for the record EBG has been flying upgraded business suite 1-2-1 for a little while now. The whole 330 fleet is guaranteed business suite.
This was back in early May, note that I said (I think) after quoting EBG
aggie57
aggie57
QF
Member since 04 Apr 2014
Total posts 136
It's not just Qantas and it's not just in Australia. I book US domestic on AA a lot, prices can move considerably for the same flight and same seats within a day or two. Just last week I booked 3 seats LAX to HNL on AA in January and this happened to me. I waited 24hrs and it cost me $600 more.
But at the same time I've saved decent amounts from the same thing. Don't blame Qantas, the whole industry works that way.
coastflyer1 Banned
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Member since 20 Jul 2019
Total posts 14
All that time to rant about $100 or so? Dynamic pricing certainly isn't something new to the airline industry nor QANTAS!