While waiting for the kettle to boil this morning was dreaming of travelling overseas and searched flights to the USA on the Qantas app.
July flights are back on to the USA - around same price before they cancelled everything around 2 months ago.
What's changed in the eyes of Qantas & what's thoughts on this?
QF are probably assuming the Fed Government will lift the international travel ban by the end of March 2021. However, booking availabilities are always subject to change.
Whether the feds lift the international travel ban (or extend the ban yet again) are entirely different questions.
Even if the flight dates are presumably post 17 March 2021 there is no guarantee whatsoever that:
1. Scotty from Marketing would not extend the outbound travel ban
2. QF would fly international flights as scheduled be it no extension of travel ban or a travel bubble established with any country (in this case, the US) including the NZ who so far refused to reciprocate the no quarantine arrangements
So buying a ticket now would at best guarantee a spot on the plane if the travel ban is lifted AND QF decides to fly AND you fulfill whatever COVID-19 testing requirements and/or vaccination passport so proposed by AJ himself, but the most likely scenario is your cash becomes part of the cash flow until the week they cancel.your flight plus whatever optimistic minimum processing time to refund your money.
Alternatively you view it as an almost surefire way of getting doubt status credit or 10-20% increase in value of your cash over 1-2 years given the very high probability the flight will be cancelled plus the "unprecedented" ultra low interest rates as seen by this country for a very long time, almost better than putting money in a term deposit
A desperate cash grab, and just a cheap way for Qantas to maintain working capital.
Flights will be cancelled, and then Qantas won't refund customers for about 4-5 months. If someone needs to fly between Australia and USA best to book with United or Delta than risk it with Qantas.
"If someone needs to fly between Australia and USA best to book with United or Delta than risk it with Qantas."
er, that would be the SAME United whose crew decided that it was appropriate for them to break NSW Quarantine rules for airline crews and got caught out? Frankly, I'd rather stick with Delta or Qantas, who actually understand what a pandemic is.
Well the comment has a point - what gives Qantas the right to sell false hope to customers just so they can boost cash flow? The government even had to make a statement when media started reporting Qantas was re selling International flights. People can be easily led.
And a bit of fake news above - it wasn't United that broke quarrantine (I can't see a bunch of 80 year old flight attendants going out for a night of fun)...it was South American crew from LATAM, as reported in media. A united crew member went unit quarrantine due to symptoms but was released.
"If someone needs to fly between Australia and USA best to book with United or Delta than risk it with Qantas."
er, that would be the SAME United whose crew decided that it was appropriate for them to break NSW Quarantine rules for airline crews and got caught out? Frankly, I'd rather stick with Delta or Qantas, who actually understand what a pandemic is.
Last editedby kimshep at Jan 05, 2021, 06:15 PM.
lol, chances are pretty low to get the SAME crew again!
So right KW72. Pure and simple cash grab by Qantas. If Qantas wants to offer flights, the fairest and most honest thing to do would be just to block the amount against your credit card. Only once the flight actually goes ahead should they actually debit your account. Qantas is technically bankrupt but only keeping alive because of federal support. The federal government and Qantas seem to be in collusion. The only place for Qantas to get cash now for covering its operating expenses is by selling fantasy fares. Isn't that how a Ponzi scheme works?
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Tracie
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While waiting for the kettle to boil this morning was dreaming of travelling overseas and searched flights to the USA on the Qantas app.
July flights are back on to the USA - around same price before they cancelled everything around 2 months ago.
What's changed in the eyes of Qantas & what's thoughts on this?
DanV
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Originally Posted by Tracie
While waiting for the kettle to boil this morning was dreaming of travelling overseas and searched flights to the USA on the Qantas app.
July flights are back on to the USA - around same price before they cancelled everything around 2 months ago.
What's changed in the eyes of Qantas & what's thoughts on this?
Whether the feds lift the international travel ban (or extend the ban yet again) are entirely different questions.
XWu
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Even if the flight dates are presumably post 17 March 2021 there is no guarantee whatsoever that:
1. Scotty from Marketing would not extend the outbound travel ban
2. QF would fly international flights as scheduled be it no extension of travel ban or a travel bubble established with any country (in this case, the US) including the NZ who so far refused to reciprocate the no quarantine arrangements
So buying a ticket now would at best guarantee a spot on the plane if the travel ban is lifted AND QF decides to fly AND you fulfill whatever COVID-19 testing requirements and/or vaccination passport so proposed by AJ himself, but the most likely scenario is your cash becomes part of the cash flow until the week they cancel.your flight plus whatever optimistic minimum processing time to refund your money.
Alternatively you view it as an almost surefire way of getting doubt status credit or 10-20% increase in value of your cash over 1-2 years given the very high probability the flight will be cancelled plus the "unprecedented" ultra low interest rates as seen by this country for a very long time, almost better than putting money in a term deposit
KW72 Banned
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A desperate cash grab, and just a cheap way for Qantas to maintain working capital.
Flights will be cancelled, and then Qantas won't refund customers for about 4-5 months. If someone needs to fly between Australia and USA best to book with United or Delta than risk it with Qantas.
kimshep
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@KW72
"If someone needs to fly between Australia and USA best to book with United or Delta than risk it with Qantas."
er, that would be the SAME United whose crew decided that it was appropriate for them to break NSW Quarantine rules for airline crews and got caught out? Frankly, I'd rather stick with Delta or Qantas, who actually understand what a pandemic is.
vhojm
vhojm
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@KW72
Sliding in with your usual drive-by sledge towards Qantas.
Stop venting your biased hate speech on a news based public forum and take it up with the airline if you have such grievances towards them.
Dan22
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Well the comment has a point - what gives Qantas the right to sell false hope to customers just so they can boost cash flow? The government even had to make a statement when media started reporting Qantas was re selling International flights. People can be easily led.
And a bit of fake news above - it wasn't United that broke quarrantine (I can't see a bunch of 80 year old flight attendants going out for a night of fun)...it was South American crew from LATAM, as reported in media. A united crew member went unit quarrantine due to symptoms but was released.
Flyer86
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I don’t see the borders opening until at least sadly until mid decade onwards due to the severity of spread and reluctance of people to travel.
Dan22
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Originally Posted by Flyer86
I don’t see the borders opening until at least sadly until mid decade onwards due to the severity of spread and reluctance of people to travel.
dm12
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Originally Posted by kimshep
@KW72
"If someone needs to fly between Australia and USA best to book with United or Delta than risk it with Qantas."
er, that would be the SAME United whose crew decided that it was appropriate for them to break NSW Quarantine rules for airline crews and got caught out? Frankly, I'd rather stick with Delta or Qantas, who actually understand what a pandemic is.
GoRobin
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So right KW72. Pure and simple cash grab by Qantas. If Qantas wants to offer flights, the fairest and most honest thing to do would be just to block the amount against your credit card. Only once the flight actually goes ahead should they actually debit your account. Qantas is technically bankrupt but only keeping alive because of federal support. The federal government and Qantas seem to be in collusion. The only place for Qantas to get cash now for covering its operating expenses is by selling fantasy fares. Isn't that how a Ponzi scheme works?