ANA eyes Perth for second Australia-Japan route

By David Flynn, December 10 2015
ANA eyes Perth for second Australia-Japan route

Japan’s ANA will begin direct flights between Sydney and Tokyo this week, and the airline already has its eye on Perth as a potential second Australian route.

“We want to fly to other destinations in Australia” attests Osamu Shinobe, President and CEO of ANA, speaking with Australian Business Traveller on the sidelines of a meeting of Star Alliance airlines in Chicago.

Shinobe named Perth as a likely next stop for the airline’s expanded “Oceania network” should Sydney-Tokyo prove to be a success. ANA competitor and Qantas partner Japan Airlines is also considering a Perth-Tokyo service.

Initial bookings on ANA’s Sydney Boeing 787 flight, which feeds into the airline’s near-city Haneda hub, are “solid” and contain a higher number of business travellers than ANA’s previous flights, which the airline axed in 1999 and which Shinobe described as “a failure, in hindsight.”

“Demand was more for leisure and also most (passengers) were Japanese” Shinobe explained to Australian Business Traveller on the sidelines of this week's meeting of Star Alliance airlines in Chicago.

However, Shinobe says a “surge in economic activity between Australia and Japan” has tipped the scale in favour of Australian travellers as well as the more-profitable business class seats.

The new Sydney flight has also been designed around an early morning arrival into Tokyo’s Haneda airport to maximise connections “anywhere they want within Japan and also to Europe as well.”

Also read: Tokyo's Haneda and Narita airports – a business traveller's guide

David Flynn travelled to Chicago as a guest of Star Alliance

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David Flynn is the Editor-in-Chief of Executive Traveller and a bit of a travel tragic with a weakness for good coffee, shopping and lychee martinis.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

05 Dec 2012

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ANA probably recognises that Qantas' international services from Perth are virtually non existant, apart from a 5 times weekly service to Singapore on a 737 and there is an opportunity. 

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19 Feb 2014

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QF now flies PER-SIN daily.

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

05 Dec 2012

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I stand corrected. still on a 737 though.

Its true that QF doesn't serve Perth much, but Perth isn't exactly an underserved market per se. The gulf and Asian carriers do give Perth quite a bit of love.

I wonder what aircraft ANA would use. Their international 787-8 carries about 20 more people than JAL's, but JAL offers the better seating product (at least in Economy and Premium Economy).

12 Dec 2012

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JL was going to change their SYD flight to a 787, until they found a software problem in the engines that caused problems when the aircraft was near storms.

Since the route to Australia means passing active storm areas, they kept using 777s. JL also pulled 787s from SIN for the same reason. They've fixed the issue, but haven't returned 787 service to those areas.

10 Sep 2012

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It wasn't a softwear problem per se which caused the GENx core-ice problem, but there is a software solution:

Anyhoo, JL runs a 77W to SYD in the northern winter, and there are rumours that the normal 772 is going to be replaced with a 77W year-round.  Here's hoping; their F is awesome.


10 Dec 2015

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Logical move by NH.  Among top AU cities for traffic to/from Japan, PER is the largest mkt without any nonstop link.

CNS, BNE, OOL, SYD and MEL each has @ least 1 competitor flying nonstop already.

The bigger question is who will be there 1st? NH or JL?

Both have already announced their interest /intention(QF have been silent so far) to launch PER-NRT by End 2016.

06 Feb 2014

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Why all these off topic comments about "why not melbourne"...should delete them...

Perth needs to direct Japan service noting more business here with Iron Ore, LNG,..I know the Japanese business comminity has been lobbying hard for this.  In addtion cargo space will be sold at nice price.  Bring it on ANA and JAL

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Remember that QF were reported to have considered another city instead of BNE for 3  services a week to NRT.  Had they moved on the PER-NRT market then, they may have kept out the Japanese airlines.

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Maybe. But maybe by going daily in Brisbane they are keeping out the Japanese airlines from a similar sized market to PER, plus BNE offers easy connections to 2 other big markets - SYD & MEL. PER sadly, is all by its own out there.

Under AusBT's published comment policy which asks users to "focus on the topic" of an article, a number of posts have been removed as being clearly off-topic.

As a reminder, this article concerns flights between Perth and Japan, and to a lesser extent, ANA's new Sydney-Tokyo services.

Readers are welcome to post questions and comments on this article that are directly relevant to this article, while all other discussion, including in regards to Melbourne-Japan flights, is welcome in our dedicated Q&A section.

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ANA with VA partnership? or are ANA with SQ?

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ANA is a member of Star Alliance, as is SQ and NZ.


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Does it really matter NH partner with VA or SQ?

1. Who own & control by far the largest chunk of VA Holdings(i.e. parent of VA+Tiger brands )? NZ and SQ(Jointly own 49%).

2. Who are already in bed together in terms of extensive codesharing, schedule coordination, fare alignment, etc.(practically a JV without advertising it as a JV loudly) in the SIN-NZ mkt & beyond?  NZ and SQ.

3. Who hv been in bed together in similar fashion for ages in the Japan-SIN mkt & beyond?  NH and SQ.

4. Who are in bed together in similar fashion since a few yrs ago(And dumped its long-term Japanese partner fm OneWorld in the process) in the Japan-NZ mkt & beyond? NH and NZ.

5. What do the NZ, SQ and NH trio hv in common?  Star A and a common strategic imperative to defend their positions @ enemy territory Australia dominated by QF/OneWorld.

6. What is the best locally built weapon this trio hv & controlled by 2 of them within this enemy territory? VA.

If NH partner with VA in Australia mkt, there's no way indirect support /encouragements by SQ and NZ are not involved.

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