Any chance Qantas will bring out a A321T type product for its east west flights with lower capacity 738's.

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moecat

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Any chance Qantas will bring out a A321T type product for its east west flights with lower capacity 738's.... I don't like the 4-5hr flight in the current &738 J product.... And they could put this on their PER-SIN route too????

mitchimus

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I wouldn't hold my breath. I actively avoid the 737's from both QF and VA on flights from Perth to the east coast..

johnaboxall

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They don't need to - look at the competition's 738.

moa999

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It's called an A330

moecat

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They currently run 738's... As well as 332/3's to increase frequency without extra capacity..... Makes sense but a better J product would be nice... Without having to choose your flight time based on aircraft. 

Chris2304

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I imagine this could only happen on the replacement aircraft for Qantas' 737 since they are doing a seat refurbishment for economy and business. But whatever replacement aircraft they choose they could use the slightly smaller Thompson Aero Vantage. Yes it's slightly smaller than the XL but would still be great for domestic use. 

Grannular

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Oh come on... It's a 5 hour flight. Surely you have more important things in life to worry about.

As long as they continue to run A330 on overnight flights, i see no issue. 738 J seats are more than comfortable enough for domestic flights.

Covo95

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it would be great on red-eye flights. 

riley

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Aside from the A321 being longer, there's not a whole lot of difference from a cabin interior perspective when compared to the B738. I couldn't see Qantas introducing a new fleet type for domestic services in a million years. New maint, pilots, crew etc. 

The question should be will they look at introducing the Business Suite seen on the A330 to the 738 for coast to coast services? My personal belief is no but it would be good to see.

moecat

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Well yes that was the question in essence. 

aniljak

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The way things are going we will see Singapore airlines operating Perth - Avalon, Perth - Newcastle and Perth - Gold Coast to grab a stake in the east west market! All as extensions of Singapore - Perth flights. They are rapidly expanding into underserved regional centres. If nobody else is going to do it, let them! Qantas certainly isn't interested in anywhere other than Sydney!

hutch

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Nothing quite like empty Singapore Airlines planes flying across Australia!

Himeno

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SQ would not be allowed to sell seats on your proposed PER-AVV or PER-OOL flights. They could sell only as AVV-SIN, etc.

In order for SQ to sell seats on such flights, they'd need to lease the aircraft to VA.

GregXL

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Both QF and VA seem to treat the B738 and A332 J products on the coast-to-coast services as interchangeable with no price difference.  QF use of B738s is increasing and includes red-eyes to SYD (noted Dave's comment above).   Surely this will lead to a lot of unhappy premium customers.

aturnbull

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Considering airlines like B6 utilise the Thomson seat on their narrowbody aircraft, there is precedent if QF/VA wanted to go down that path.   A quick comparison of real estate on QF suggests that the 3 rows of J on the 738 roughly take up 3.5 rows of economy seating.  Using the flat-bed product on the A333 as a guide, width you would have a 1-2 layout taking up approx 4.5 rows of economy seating, for only 9 seats.  To get to 12 flat-bed, you would likely need 5.5-6 rows of economy in terms of space.   Knowing that QF have just "found" an extra row.  Taking that into account, a flat-bed configuration would look something like 12J/150Y  (assuming you would rip two rows of Economy out of the new config to take into account the newer seats.

Now perhaps that is too many for the bean-counters. but, I would think something like that config would really suit basically any route over 3hrs and introduce this product to places like ADL,DRW,CNS and for Jetconnect

Perhaps its just too much of a Y class hit.  

I wonder if we'll see some 739MAX orders for QF at the half-year results?  If QF were to order the 739 ( or the A321 if they get the crew to agree...) then we might see a new product for J.  

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