In the case of each of the cities you mentioned and any possible NZ pairings, you’d be aware that current generation narrow bodies already have the range to service NZ. Indeed, most flights to NZ from the east coast are on the 738 and have been for years.
The A321LR, whilst being exciting in some respects, isn’t going to make the routes you suggest suddenly viable given they’re already capable of being operated with the narrow bodies in service. I daresay pax loads have more to do with it.
The A321LR will easily be seen wherever you find 757s across the Atlantic and around the Americas. Maybe also some longer intra asia routes with LCCs but unlikely to see any around Australia. AirNZ would've been a good fit for some of their pacific island routes but they've already committed to the standard A321.
Can Air NZ and Jetstar change their current A320 and A321 orders to A321LRs?
A321LR could be a good choice for airlines like Fiji Airways, Samoa Airways Air Vanuatu, Air Caledonie and Air Nauru who need Longer ranged narrow bodies for routes to Asia from their home bases.
The A321LR is more suited between Asia and Australia and Australia and South Pacific Islands, Australia trans continental west-east services. Since Qantas and Virgin Australia are Boeing orientated, most likely Jetstar would use the A321LR. Despite Air NZ ordering 4 A321neo's, at this stage there is no plans to use A321LR for their short haul international services.
A321LR is Airbus move to B757 market, that Boeing has left when they stopped production of the B757. The A321LR will be used by carriers in the Northern Hemisphere especially of the trans Atlantic routes, Europe/Africa routes, Pan American routes, Asian and trans continental east-west routes in North America. LLC are keen in using the A321LR's to their services to medium haul international services.
Time to indulge some salacious gossip. It was tweeted today by Alex Macheras as well know aviation journalist and retweeted by Leeham news:
"New: @Qantas Group are considering switching #A320neo orders for subsidiary Jetstar, for the larger #A321neo or #A32LR — which QF say could take over 787 routes (such as Sydney-Bali) given the A321neo/LR capabilities."
Qantas should replace the ageing 737ng with the A320neo line up for both domestic and thin international routes. The A321LR is a true game changer that could open up new International destinations for QF.
The A330neo is the best fit to replace the older A330 classics in Qantas’ fleet. The Neo has wider seats and will slot in with minimal capital cost. The 787 hype is just that, hype.
It has been confirmed in the midyear results by QANTAS that Jetstar is taking 18 A321 NEO LR from calendar 2020 to be used on existing Melbourne and Sydney routes to Bali to free up the 787's for other opportunities.
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aniljak
aniljak
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What routes and what operator would you like to see using the new A321LR?
GBRGB
GBRGB
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Townsville to Singapore, yes I am dreaming but in Townsville when it comes to flying dreams are all we have left.
aniljak
aniljak
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Sorry GBRGB, accidentally left Townsville and Darwin off my list!
Covvers
Covvers
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In the case of each of the cities you mentioned and any possible NZ pairings, you’d be aware that current generation narrow bodies already have the range to service NZ. Indeed, most flights to NZ from the east coast are on the 738 and have been for years.
elchriss0
elchriss0
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The A321LR will easily be seen wherever you find 757s across the Atlantic and around the Americas. Maybe also some longer intra asia routes with LCCs but unlikely to see any around Australia. AirNZ would've been a good fit for some of their pacific island routes but they've already committed to the standard A321.
aniljak
aniljak
Member since 15 Sep 2012
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Can Air NZ and Jetstar change their current A320 and A321 orders to A321LRs?
patrickk
patrickk
Qantas
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Singapore Canberra on a A321LR may be possible at a stretch, but certainly not with a current 737.
krisdude
krisdude
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The A321LR is more suited between Asia and Australia and Australia and South Pacific Islands, Australia trans continental west-east services. Since Qantas and Virgin Australia are Boeing orientated, most likely Jetstar would use the A321LR. Despite Air NZ ordering 4 A321neo's, at this stage there is no plans to use A321LR for their short haul international services. A321LR is Airbus move to B757 market, that Boeing has left when they stopped production of the B757. The A321LR will be used by carriers in the Northern Hemisphere especially of the trans Atlantic routes, Europe/Africa routes, Pan American routes, Asian and trans continental east-west routes in North America. LLC are keen in using the A321LR's to their services to medium haul international services.
aussie-flyer
aussie-flyer
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Time to indulge some salacious gossip. It was tweeted today by Alex Macheras as well know aviation journalist and retweeted by Leeham news:
JoeA350
JoeA350
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Qantas should replace the ageing 737ng with the A320neo line up for both domestic and thin international routes. The A321LR is a true game changer that could open up new International destinations for QF.
aussie-flyer
aussie-flyer
Member since 08 May 2017
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It has been confirmed in the midyear results by QANTAS that Jetstar is taking 18 A321 NEO LR from calendar 2020 to be used on existing Melbourne and Sydney routes to Bali to free up the 787's for other opportunities.