Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer
Member since 06 Feb 2015
Total posts 17
Is it just me or are we being ripped off in Brisbane and Sydney with the so called ‘AirTrain Service’. In fact, they are ordinary commuter trains, operating on commuter lines stopping at all stations. For example, Hong Kong’ Airport Express and London’s Heathrow Express have a proper ‘AirTrain Service’ where there are places to store your luggage and get you to the cities efficiently with minimal stops. Happy to pay a premium, but not for Brisbane and Sydney where there is no luggage storage and a number of times have had to stand due to it being a commuter trains.
Member since 20 Nov 2015
Total posts 41
Yes, every time I visit Sydney it's such an embarrassment. But you do have to remember that the HKG and LHR airport express services are completely different to SYD for example, they're non-stop or few stops, high-speed, covering quite a distance because the airport is so far from the city, unlike SYD.
Member since 09 Aug 2015
Total posts 12
A few years back there was talk of CityRail changing the way the Sydney Airport Link worked, they would just have the trains running a shuttle service from the international and domestic terminals to Central, back and forth. But I think this was scrapped because everybody would have had to change trains at Central, even if you were on the suburban train coming from the southwest and going to the airport.
Member since 04 Dec 2013
Total posts 67
You had me until you mentioned the Heathrow Express - per mile the single most expensive rail journey in the world!
Member since 23 Feb 2015
Total posts 266
Still better value (cheaper and quicker) than a taxi.
Member since 07 Oct 2012
Total posts 768
It is too expensive. I expect a surcharge, given its a private company, but the charge is too high.
British Airways - Executive Club
Member since 23 Mar 2018
Total posts 42
It will be interesting to see how Crossrail (if it ever opens!) changes things in London. It will be cheaper than the Heathrow Express but will make a small number of stops enroute. They estimate travel time at about half an hour right into the heart of the West End (Tottenham Court Road area).
Member since 02 Jul 2011
Total posts 835
Without the surcharges neither link would have been built at the time.
Member since 22 Oct 2012
Total posts 239
Whilst everyone moans about the cost of the Heathrow Express, keep in mind that if you are lucky enough to be able to use it on a weekend AND buy your ticket online 90 days ahead, then the price drops to just 5.50 pounds. That price is considerably cheaper that the slower Heathrow Connect service used to charge, for it had a single fixed price.
Member since 24 Dec 2013
Total posts 150
At least Brisbane and Sydney have trains. In Melbourne it's a bus with a $20 fare.
Member since 24 Apr 2012
Total posts 1,118
If I'm not mistaken, in Brisbane, Airtrain actually paid to build the elevated train line that serves the domestic and international terminals right through from the last suburban stop (Eagle Junction), and maintains an arrangement with Queensland Rail whereby the trains are basically chartered by Airtrain between Eagle Junction and the airport (and vice versa), but then continue beyond Eagle Junction as a regular QR service to avoid having trains dedicated to making that two stop journey (as opposed to the service being on a normal suburban line).Speaking as a Brisbane resident though, the train has never made sense for me: unless you live in the city or near the few stops served between the airport and the city, working the train into your travel plans makes the journey considerably longer, and works out to be much more expensive.For example, adding in the bus connections required, it takes four times as long to get to the airport by public transport than what it takes to drive, and when there's two of you, getting an Uber is generally cheaper than the public transport fare. Logically, I'm not going to pay more for a less convenient journey, so while I can understand the higher fare structure given the way the line was built and is maintained, if they want to increase passenger numbers, the fare needs to be much, much cheaper, to make it worthy of consideration.Different for tourists, of course, given the train goes from the airport right into the CBD, but for most locals, it's a different story!
Member since 06 Jul 2018
Total posts 16
Which in most cases is more cost-effective than a taxi or ride-share, but there is no guarantee it will get you there quicker. What I'll be interested in is if an Airport-Link train plan ever get's approved, will it be a new or an extension to a commuter line like in Brisbane and Sydney.
Member since 31 Jan 2018
Total posts 13
Critical for me: leave Sydney cbd office 1 hour before departure, walk to station, go through security, 5-10 mins to boarding. Seems good value to me.
Member since 20 Mar 2018
Member since 21 Mar 2011
Total posts 431
Talking about airport trains, ... just wait and see what PER/Transperth/the WA government will do, or if they will charge a big surcharge as well, when the rail line starts working under PER Airport.
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